Somewhat late Tuesday open thread.

In my defense, I was writing. In response to an unfolding news story. Like a BOSS. Or, you know: Like a writer trying to be timely. As one does.

Anyhoo! It’s yours….

Standard FYI clause: I generally wait about 2 hours after Ta-Nehisi would typically open a thread (roughly noon, EST, back when such a thing was typical…!), and if none is forthcoming, I put one up here.



  1. Captain_Button

     /  December 11, 2012

    Can’t think of anything clever to say.

    Thing with the dead nurse in England because of some prank-calling assholes in Australia. Do I really want to look it up, or is it as tragically stupid as it sounds?

    • Tragically stupid as it sounds. Though the lynch mob to have the heads of the DJs is over the top.

    • Here’s the thing: I think that prank-calling DJs are right near the bottom of the barrel of human society. They’re investing their professional lives in a patently childish and cruel activity, one designed to humiliate strangers, often strangers with no real power or position. The only way to make themselves more repulsive would be to kick puppies under the sound desk as they dial the phone.

      Yet if someone commits suicide, they had a problem long before two assholes dialed the phone. I have tremendous compassion for the woman who died, and absolutely zee-roh for the shitpickles who called her, but they’re not the reason she died. They were clearly the last in what was probably a long and excruciating line of straws.

      • David L

         /  December 11, 2012

        Local radio morning show had a discussion of this this morning instead of their usual crank-call bit (which seems relatively harmless–it involves one half of the duo calling random sales-oriented businesses, asking questions about their products/services, and attempting to get the person on the other end to say “I love you” without any prompting other than repeated “I love you”s from the local DJ*.)

        One of the points made that I thought was good was that, before the suicide, the radio station stood behind these guys, then dumped them, and how that wasn’t cool. (To quote what was said as best I can from memory.) “Either this was OK or it wasn’t. If what made it not OK was that someone got so upset about embarrassing the future Queen of England that she killed herself, then the possibility of that happening should have made it not OK. The reaction was going to be outside of anyone at that station’s control the moment it went out over the air and any manager that didn’t anticipate a negative reaction didn’t do their job.”

        * – Given what I know about radio, it wouldn’t surprise me if this is some bits-by-mail thing where the local station gets the audio from the original phone call plus a transcript of what was said so that they can put their local person’s voice in as the caller.

      • JHarper2

         /  December 11, 2012

        Emily, please delete my comments, I got too heated and wrote too quickly.
        my apologies.

        • Will do, but I think you were perfectly fine. I understand where your heart is in these moments. xo

          • JHarper2

             /  December 11, 2012

            I shouldn’t get shouty at the person I’m not angry at.

      • All I can say is, having suffered from years of taunts and pranks, that if someone’s prank calling pushed someone to commit suicide I would view that no different than if that prank caller pushed that person off a bridge. To me it is the worst sort of behavior to do that to other people, and in this day and age we have to be aware that anything can set anyone off.

  2. Were you working at work too? Isn’t that such a distraction?
    Anyway, today’s T4T is M.I.A.
    Also there’s more PreFall 2013.
    And a Voice Recap.

    Have at them!

    • Captain_Button

       /  December 11, 2012

      Work is the curse of the blogging class.

    • koolaide

       /  December 11, 2012

      (peeks head in)

      Did someone mention working at work?

      I’ve been slammed at work so not around the Horde much–mostly my fault for procrastinating work tasks. But also boss who doesn’t check in w/ me for months on end or set deadlines or anything then says “that big thing? give it to me before the end of the year.” I very well may not make the deadline (again, mostly my fault but still) and I’m stressing BIG TIME. I finally have a (potential) line out of this particular not-excellent job but I have to not have any black marks on my performance record. And missing this deadline would lead to a Black Mark. STRESS.

      Carry on.

  3. caoil

     /  December 11, 2012

    How is it Tuesday already? Oh, right, because yesterday was a complete disaster. I gave up on the vest entirely after sewing two inner pieces together incorrectly twice. But thank you for that tutorial, Nora Munro, I think I shall bookmark it and then muck around with some pretend pockets later on.

  4. David L

     /  December 11, 2012

    I’m having one of those days when what I would really like for lunch is a way to make my stomach feel full without actually having to eat. I feel somewhat hungry, but nothing I can think of appeals. I had a small, but very calorie dense breakfast (multiple breakfast tacos) and I think I’m having trouble reconciling quantity eaten and the number of calories I’ve taken in.

    I’m tempted to run to the c-store, buy a bag of chips or some crackers or something, and combine that with my “emergency” single-serving soup container and call that a lunch.

  5. JHarper2

     /  December 11, 2012

    Apparently there is a prequel movie opening on Friday (late Thursday night). The biggest multi-plex in my city will be showing the movie Friday. By showing the movie I mean only showing the movie. All Hobbit, nothing but Hobbit, all the time, on all the screens. Half the screens in the city will be Hobbity.
    On Saturday, they are easing back, one children’s movie on one screen in the morning, The opera on one screen in the afternoon, and for the rest, Hobbit time, all the time.
    One Ring to rule them all, indeed.

    • I had a moment of concern (a day or two, really. But no more than that!) that we’ll be taking the girl to see The Hobbit, but she hasn’t yet seen LOTR.

      And then I realized that my brain is a very small organ.

    • caoil

       /  December 11, 2012

      Why did no one tell me there’s a movie?

      just kidding

      • JHarper2

         /  December 11, 2012

        On a related note, has your material arrived for the sewing?

        • caoil

           /  December 11, 2012

          Not the second batch! I’m waiting and waiting and waiting and apparently USPS express mail thingie doesn’t have a tracking number, so I can’t even see if it’s stupid Customs holding it up. 😦 I have devised a Plan B in case it doesn’t show, which will involve getting some kind of extra fabric for the lower sleeves & just basting it on so at least she has something on her lower arms.

          I promise to put a photo or two on photobucket so those of you who are here can see the final product(s).

  6. I finally have people to see The Hobbit with! HOORAY!!!!!

    • caoil

       /  December 11, 2012


    • scone

       /  December 11, 2012

      Hooray! I’m still not sure with who and when I’ll see it. I’m too old to go to a midnight showing and be at work the next day, I’ve got a terribly boring office holiday party on Friday night, and I’ve got concert tickets Saturday! Will I have to wait until SUNDAY? The horrors!

  7. Blog flogging, this time promoting my year-end Best Books I’ve Read list:

  8. caoil

     /  December 11, 2012

    Spending too much time lately talking to a very exhausting friend. She’s stressed out about the financial viability of the event she runs, and I get that, but it (the event, and the stress) cannot be the topic of conversation all. the. time. I wish I could figure out a way to gently suggest that it’s possible it is just not going to take off to the level she wants it to, and maybe to just let go of it. I’m not sure there’s a way to successfully do that. She’s started an indiegogo campaign to try to raise some funds to pay for previous years and get a more secure location etc. etc. but I don’t hold out a lot of hope that she’ll make the goal.

  9. I am sad you don’t really lurk on FB Emily. We are having quite the discussion on parental support after high school.

  10. wearyvoter

     /  December 11, 2012

    Late night hellos from downstate on the prairie.