Callin’ it like a called thing: Open Thread.

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Standard FYI clause: I generally wait about 2 hours after Ta-Nehisi would typically open a thread (roughly noon, EST, back when such a thing was typical…!), and if none is forthcoming, I put one up here.

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  1. David L

     /  October 17, 2012

    Cross-posted from the Horde FB group: Can I sue the Attorney General for wasting my tax money trying to defend things that the SCOTUS has ruled are clearly unconstitutional?

    http://www.texastribune.org/texas-education/public-education/texas-ag-intervenes-case-over-religious-expression/

    • watson42

       /  October 17, 2012

      If only…. Clearly taking an oath to uphold the law doesn’t mean one is actually bound by it.

      Also, “bow down at the altar of secular beliefs”??? Really?

  2. Just remember, the only thing Romney does NOT lie or flip-flop over is his tax cut proposal. Everything else changes with the ever-shifting winds upon the sands. Just note Romney’s tax plan… AND STILL VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE DAMMIT TAX CUTS DON’T WORK. /fume

    • Not to mention that the original stimulus was something like 2/3 tax cuts. And, as the Republicans are so fond of pointing out, hasn’t dragged us out of the doldrums.

    • taylor16

       /  October 17, 2012

      I am so fucking tired of hearing about tax cuts that I could just scream. I swear to god.

      I know that everyone wants to keep *all* of their money – who wouldn’t? – but for Chrissakes. That is not how the world works, you petulant children!!!

      • SWNC

         /  October 17, 2012

        I know! Really, in terms of things that the government could do that would Make My Life Better, tax cuts are not even in the top five.

        But, hey, us middle-class people won’t have to pay taxes on interest and dividends! (Whoop-de-frickin-doo, Mittens. I think I earned about $5 in interest last year.)

    • LizR

       /  October 17, 2012

      On the bright side, his campaign apparently failed to purchase the <a href="http://www.romneytaxplan.com/&quot; romneytaxplan.com domain, and the DNC has made excellent use of it.

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    • Bob Jones' Neighbor

       /  October 17, 2012

      Romney still uses binders? What kind? Kaopectate, paregoric or boiled rice?

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  5. Captain_Button

     /  October 17, 2012

    But what if I refuse the Call?

  6. koolaide

     /  October 17, 2012

    has the post lunch zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    • my salad must’ve had sleeping pills in it.

      • socioprof

         /  October 17, 2012

        I feel the same way about my coffee. That ls unfortunate, no?

    • There used to be a space on the floor below mine that was going to be a café. However, the people in charge eventually realized that it was just cannibalizing sales from the coffee shop the next building over, so they closed it down. That meant there were a few tables and a scattering of chairs in an open space that was very irregularly used. So I ate my lunch down there pretty frequently. Between the noontime sun coming through the floor to ceiling windows, the white noise from the ventilation system, and a full belly, I was almost guaranteed to go to sleep after lunch.

      • Captain Button

         /  October 17, 2012

        Falling asleep in the cafe of broken dreams sounds like a good way to wake up in another world where you must battle evil as the chosen one.

  7. chingona

     /  October 17, 2012

    Listening to this a lot lately.

  8. taylor16

     /  October 17, 2012

    Karl Rove is speaking at IU tomorrow night … debating Robert Gibbs.

    Any creative ideas of what my husband should do if Rove shows up at his restaurant toinght?

    IU tends to bring its visiting speakers and similar people there for dinner, so it’s within the realm of possibility that it could happen…

    • Fungal meningitis in his salad? They’d never track it back to the restaurant…

      • taylor16

         /  October 17, 2012

        That is more creative than spitting in his drink, which was my husband’s first thought (and not something he normally does, for the record) …🙂

        • Tenar Darrell

           /  October 17, 2012

          The diplomatic things and constructive criticism probably flies right over his head, whereas the nasty things I am thinking of (including refusing to serve him) are kind of like responding to a troll. You react, he wins.

          A nasty thought is like: Can you serve him a rat burger like in that recent episode of Bones?

    • efgoldman

       /  October 17, 2012

      Make sure his table is surrounded by Hispanics and people of color, all talking about Obama with great enthusiasm.

      • mythopoeia

         /  October 17, 2012

        This is the best idea.

      • Better yet, make sure the entire restaurant is filled with blacks, hispanics, asians, AND white people of all ages and genders are surrounding him talking enthusiastically about Obama.

      • taylor16

         /  October 17, 2012

        This … now this could be done. Also with quite a few gay people.

        • I would so seriously do this. I would call all my friends and DO THIS.

          • taylor16

             /  October 17, 2012

            Husband has been notified that if he shows up, he is to call me IMMEDIATELY and slap a “reserved” sign on the adjacent table.

            I will report back if it happens.🙂

        • Tenar Darrell

           /  October 17, 2012

          I love it! Much better than mean, or diplomatic, sneaky!

    • Bob Jones' Neighbor

       /  October 17, 2012

      Chocolate pie.

    • Tell him at the maiter’d podium that your restaurant observes all international treaties regarding war crimes. See how fast he runs away.

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  October 17, 2012

      Iocane powder. Odorless. Tasteless. Dissolves instantly in liquid … and one of the worlds more deadly poisons.

      • caoil

         /  October 17, 2012

        He certainly hasn’t had time to build up an immunity to it!

  9. scone

     /  October 17, 2012

    Seeking advice from ASoIaF fans for my Halloween costume (which I realized I may not get to use this year b/c I’m going to a wedding the weekend before the 31st, but hey, this is a costume that will be relevant – even more so! – next year, too).

    Um, spoilers, I guess? I’d like to go as the Red Wedding. I was thinking of getting a hat that looks like a wolf, a long white (wedding-esque) dress, put stitches on my neck, smear myself with blood and print out a House Stark sigil and tape it on myself somehow. Anyone have suggestions for improving this costume?

    I’ve been amusing myself by imagining the responses I’ll get when I tell them what I am. Lots of blank looks, but for people who know, hopefully they will be impressed.

    • you should wait with that costume until next year.

      • scone

         /  October 17, 2012

        Yeah, like I said, I probably have to anyway. Not that I have a problem with being early on Halloween costumes. I was Downward Spiral Britney Spears in 2004, which, in retrospect, was in fact rather near the top of her downward spiral.

  10. So Mr “I Disapprove of Your Commas” also has doubts about my ability to decipher my own calendar, or perhaps simply doesn’t comprehend that when I say “no, I am not available for a meeting that afternoon,” I actually mean that I’m not available that afternoon.

    It also turns out he thought I was an intern. I don’t even know what to do with that.

    • I am so sorry. I have been there, and I am so, so sorry.

      • Thank you. I am going to go home and have tea or maybe hot chocolate, and take comfort in the fact that at least this genius doesn’t do my performance review.

  11. esqueeze me, did someone break twitter?
    or is it just me?

  12. caoil

     /  October 17, 2012

    I would like to set our Calgary office on fire. I don’t understand how an entire office can be so unwilling to comprehend the agreed-upon styles we use and how to safely build documents. You know what? You deserve it if your 146-page due diligence explodes into tiny bits.

    • You know, here’s the thing. It’s my experience of you that you are an exceptionally understanding and kind woman. Now, who knows, maybe I missed something somewhere, but this is my impression at any rate.

      So, when you get mad? I want to tell the objects of your fury to duck and make things right very quickly. Because I have a feeling that when you talk like this, you are VERYVERY MAD. And I don’t think they’ll like you when you’re mad.

      • caoil

         /  October 17, 2012

        I try to be patient, most of the time. But these moments when so many cooks have had their don’t-know-what-they’re-doing hands in the stock pot make me mad. I might as well be talking to a room full of mannequins for how much my admonitions to be careful are sinking in. I think there are border collies out there who would listen & understand more thoroughly (once, you know, the vagaries of Word had been explained to them).

    • Why is it my first thought when you said that was “Calgary Flames”?

      Damn the NHL owners.

      • caoil

         /  October 17, 2012

        I am sure there are some fans here who wouldn’t mind your misreading.

  13. David Litvak

     /  October 17, 2012

    Sharing from my having shared it at the FB group (and I really don’t get myself over here enough, do I – a belated shanah tovah to you, Emily!):

    http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/10/women_in_israel_as_the_idf_becomes_more_religious_the_rights_of_female_soldiers.single.html

    I assume there are thoughts on this subject.

  14. Darth Thulhu

     /  October 17, 2012

    Wanted to give a shout-out to the Glamorous Binder-Women of Twitter last night. I was working through the debate, and the wealth of comment on the way home was good to read before plopping in front of the recording.

    Many thanks to Eva, Anibundel, Asiangrrl, Emily, BJ, and Rosalin. (If I missed anyone, my apologies for not following you yet.)

    • I apologise for the all caps sections of the debate.

      • Darth Thulhu

         /  October 17, 2012

        Romney kind of earns them, though. You and Asiangrrl definitely held my interest : )

  15. I’m sorry, the Trapperkeeper on TNC’s front page looks like a condom marketed to the ladies and it’s driving me nuts.

    Though I suppose the only thing I’m sorry about is that I keep seeing it. GAH – mine eyes!

  16. chingona

     /  October 17, 2012

    It has been a year of babies, babies and more babies. Tons of friends, co-workers and various relatives by marriage having babies. Around 5 a.m. this morning, the last baby I was waiting on – the first for my best friend from college – arrived safely earthside. Mother is also doing well. I always feel a little nervous about these things along with the happiness I feel for my friends and family, and now that the last one has arrived, I feel like I can really exhale.

    • SWNC

       /  October 17, 2012

      Yay for healthy babies and mothers!

      • chingona

         /  October 17, 2012

        (And now I feel like an ass for forgetting a few people. I will keep holding my breath.)

        • SWNC

           /  October 17, 2012

          The babies will come whether you’re nervous or not. It’s cool.

          I know what you mean, though. My last friend who had a baby did a home birth up the side of a mountain that was only accessible by an extremely steep, very narrow gravel road. No way you could get an ambulance up there. It was nerve-wracking.

    • socioprof

       /  October 17, 2012

      More babies=more bellies to kiss+more feet to tickle=more happiness in the world.

  17. koolaide

     /  October 17, 2012

    Also? Fire Jurgen Klinsmann. Or pay someone to hire him away.

    • Bob Jones' Neighbor

       /  October 17, 2012

      Why? We’re in the final 6, no?

      • aaron singer

         /  October 17, 2012

        Barely. And on the last day of competition. And the back line still looks awful.

        • Bob Jones' Neighbor

           /  October 17, 2012

          And they were warned that he was coming, and he still out ran them. Can we fire the back line? They certainly deserve it!

          • aaron singer

             /  October 17, 2012

            As Koolaide said, there is absolutely zero reason for the USA to struggle in CONCACAF. There were no such concerns in 2006 and 2010, and yet here we were yesterday. I’ve seen nothing under his tenure that shows that they’ve gotten better.

      • koolaide

         /  October 17, 2012

        We’ve regressed over the time he’s been in charge. He says one thing (pandering) to the press/fans and then does something else w/ his lineups and tactics. His right hand man has zero clue. He had multiple games that didn’t really count to try new defenders and didn’t. We lost to Jamaica. If during the Hex we play like we’ve been playing, we won’t get through.

        Sven:Mexico :: Jurgen:USA

    • efgoldman

       /  October 17, 2012

      Fire Jurgen Klinsmann.
      Did he play Sgt. Schultz or Col. Klink?

  18. ok, WTF does the GOP think it’s doing?

    Did it not get the meme? Like REALLY not get the meme?

    • koolaide

       /  October 17, 2012

      no. no they do not get it. this surprises you?

      • Yes. I thought they had some savvy people who understood when the joke was on them and not to touch it.

        • The wingnuts do not get the joke unless it’s a joke they’re telling. And their jokes are crass, clueless, bullying and ill-informed. There’s a reason why their attempts to come up with a response to the Daily Show/Colbert line-up have been disasters. And the problem is, they KNOW there is something funny about this “binder” stuff, they just don’t and won’t get it…

        • Tenar Darrell

           /  October 17, 2012

          I think it is like Fox treating John Stewart like he is a reporter or a spokesman for the Democratic party. They take him more seriously than he takes himself. They don’t get the joke. For example :Why else would you have something like the rumble in the airconditioned amphitheater?

    • Huh. That’s exceptional.

    • Dex

       /  October 17, 2012

      Seeing the GOP try to riff on web memes is like seeing them try to talk about race. It’s just. So. Painful. Even if you’re only a semi-aware Republican, you have to be head-desking yourself over this stuff.

    • socioprof

       /  October 17, 2012

      Wowwwwwwwwww

  19. Hey, while you’re here!

    Don’t forget to read both down and up thread!

    “ ‘The best video on human sexuality ever’ – my 13 year old son.” https://emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2012/10/15/the-best-video-on-human-sexuality-ever-my-13-year-old-son/

    “Acceptable alternatives. (Or: Please stop insulting my genitalia).” https://emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/acceptable-alternatives-or-please-stop-insulting-my-genitalia-and-yes-nsfw-bc-language/

    “Washed in the blood of the lamb, etc. (A response to Pamela Geller).” https://emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/washed-in-the-blood-of-the-lamb-etc-a-response-to-pamela-geller/

    “A matter of habit.” https://emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/a-matter-of-habit/

    “I told you so.” (in which I predict political stuff and prove I’m not bad at it) https://emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/i-told-you-so/

  20. CitizenE

     /  October 17, 2012

    My younger daughter will be married Friday. My sister, was more mother than sister to me, died this morning, her funeral Friday within an our of my daughter’s wedding. I feel like a tree shaken of its leaves by the wind. A fragment of a longer piece I will be working on over the next two weeks to read at the Celebration of Life planned for my sister in a couple of weeks:

    Oh Diane, I have found
    such comfort and grace in the wild
    and desolate places,
    whispering in the
    ripples and wastes interlaced, life,
    its violent and sublime,
    stubborn persistence,
    feeding and eating away
    at the ghosts, the husks,
    the half broken shells–
    what is and what was
    in the endless silences
    awaiting you now,
    awaiting your murmurs,
    and salt left by your ultimate,
    moon-drawn breaks upon the sand.

    Shall we go down
    to the shore together
    like elk in autumn weather, and
    lick of it?

    • corkingiron

       /  October 17, 2012

      I’m sorry for your loss of a loved one, E. I can think of no finer tribute than what you are working on. W wish you peace and the sweet memory of joy, my friend.

    • Oh, dear Cit E. I am so, so sorry for your loss. So happy for your girl’s celebration, and so deeply sorry for your loss. This is a beautiful piece, and I am so glad that you can turn your love and your sorrow into something beautiful to honor someone who you love so much. All the best, and many hugs.

    • SWNC

       /  October 17, 2012

      I am so sorry to hear of your sister’s passing and I wish your daughter all happiness in her upcoming marriage.

    • caoil

       /  October 17, 2012

      I am sorry for your loss, CitizenE. Hugs and sympathy heading your way.

    • mythopoeia

       /  October 17, 2012

      Comfort and joy to you, friend.

    • socioprof

       /  October 17, 2012

      Oh, I am so sorry for your loss. This is a lovely piece.

    • socioprof

       /  October 17, 2012

      I wish your daughter and her spouse years of happiness together.

    • wearyvoter

       /  October 17, 2012

      I’m so sorry for your loss.

    • wearyvoter

       /  October 17, 2012

      Congratulations to your daughter and soon-to-be son-in-law.

    • I am so very sorry for your loss. My deepest sympathies to you and your family.

      Also, best wishes to your daughter. There was a death in my husband’s family (his grandfather) five days before our wedding and I saw how hard that pair of events was on him.

    • COMFORT button clicked. Congratulations to your daughter, but still what a tragic time for the family…

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  October 17, 2012

      Comfort and solace and congratulations. My last grandparent passed three days before my sister’s wedding. Sister went on her honeymoon while the rest of us went to the funeral. Wrenching.

      Best to you and yours in this intensity.

    • Captain Button

       /  October 18, 2012

      8~~~-({

  21. zenobiajo

     /  October 17, 2012

    Citizen E: My heartfelt sympathy to you. I am sending prayers and good wishes to you and yours. To have to get through a day with two heavily emotional yet diametrically opposed family events on the same day is not for the faint of heart. I hope you will receive the care and support you surely deserve from your friends and loved ones.

  22. efgoldman

     /  October 17, 2012

    My Special Day!

    The National Park Service and over 220 partners are celebrating our nation’s rich fossil heritage and promoting science education today, the third annual National Fossil Day.

    http://goldrushcam.com/sierrasuntimes/index.php/news/mariposa-daily-news-2012/139-october/6617-national-park-service-celebrates-third-annual-national-fossil-day-on-wednesday-october-17-2012

  23. CitizenE

     /  October 17, 2012

    Thanks to all.