Another in a series of threads, opened unto you.

Phew – I didn’t notice the time, and anibundel saved us! Have at it, Horde, my Horde.

Standard FYI clause: I generally wait about 2 hours after Ta-Nehisi would typically open a thread (roughly noon, EST, back when such a thing was typical…!), and if none is forthcoming, I put one up here.

108 Comments

  1. While I was talking on HuffPost Live just now about Libya – the host brought up a tweet from Roz! It was the coolest thing to happen to me today.

    • JHarper2

       /  September 12, 2012

      You really need a LIKE function. (Not that you personally don’t have a LIKE function, it’s your elves that need a LIKE function. I assume that you have LIKES and DISLIKES, being a real person and all).
      Also, really cool.

  2. One of these days you’re going to be a real pundit and leave us all behind.
    But until then: BLOGFLOG!
    FaceOff http://wp.me/p10bqa-2V0
    The Voice http://wp.me/p10bqa-2Ug
    SYTYCD Final Four—A MUST CLICK!!! http://wp.me/p10bqa-2Ui

    Plus new fashion lines–Threeasfour, Charlotte Ronson and Herve Leger by Max Azria

    • koolaide

       /  September 12, 2012

      I’m debating posting your SYTYCD post on my fb page.

    • taylor16

       /  September 12, 2012

      You will be happy to hear that I watched SYTYCD last night, after seeing one of your early tweets. Then I looked back at your earlier posts and watched some of the routines. Aren’t you proud of me???

      I enjoyed it, the dancers are very good, although I feel kind of weird because I don’t really know which ones I *liked* more since I don’t know anything about dancing. Like, they all look awesomely talented to me, you know? But I think for me it ultimately comes down to what kind of dance they’re doing more than anything else (I seem to like contemporary dance), which makes me feel like I shouldn’t be watching or something since I’m clearly not appreciating, say, the ballet as much as I should be.

      (For the record, I liked Cyrus and Eliana better. Not that I can exactly tell you why that was.🙂

      • koolaide

         /  September 12, 2012

        Yay! for watching the bestest show. Everyone has styles they like better than others and that is not wrong. I have zero dancing background & I can NOT dance. There is no sort of “Proper Appreciation” for certain styles🙂 So if you like contemporary better than classical just b/c, that’s totally acceptable. As is totally hating a particular routine in a style even if the dancers did the dance well.

      • koolaide

         /  September 12, 2012

        ok, I totally needed an edit button but instead I will double post.

        I will admit to irrationally not liking Chehon. I don’t know why–I’d like to hope it isn’t b/c of his facial expressions b/c surely I’m not that shallow. But I just have not at all liked him. But last night I did finally see his incredible dancing ability.

        I’m 100% TeamEliana and have been for most of the show. Tiffany if a fine dancer and I’m glad she made the finals over a couple of others.

        • taylor16

           /  September 12, 2012

          I felt like he was probably a more overtly and sort of “classically” talented dancer than Cyrus – like, it seemed like he had probably had more official training or something, I don’t know. He looked very proper and pointy-toed and passionate-faced like dancers are supposed to look, in my mind anyway (heh). But for some reason I just liked Cyrus more. He seemed to be having more fun with it? Making the dances more his own? I can’t really put my finger on it, but I liked him better.

          Don’t they pick a guy and a girl winner?

          • koolaide

             /  September 12, 2012

            Your impressions about Chehon & Cyrus are on point. He is a trained dancer (classical ballet, even) and, as even I saw last night, incredibly good at it. Cyrus is self taught and his style is popping/animation/robotic and he has zero experience until this show with the other styles (ballroom paso doble or contemporary dance or broadway) he’s done over the course of the competition.

            Lots of viewers love Cyrus because of his personality & charisma & backstory. And he hasn’t been horrible at all the new stuff he’s had to learn.

  3. Bob Jones' Neighbor

     /  September 12, 2012

    Emily – I saw part of your gig at HuffPo and as usual, you were a voice of reason. (And so were McCain, Graham and Lieberman. Who’d ‘a’thunk it?)

    • Thanks! I must say though that this is the first time I’ve ever been on any kind of panel anywhere where there was no yelling, and no one I felt like yelling at even as I bit my tongue. It was nice to be chatting with a group of very reasonably and hugely well-informed people.

  4. mightbelying

     /  September 12, 2012

    *Snoopy Dance* Who’s a doctor? I’m a doctor! *Snoopy Dance Continues*

    • caoil

       /  September 12, 2012

      *confetti* *balloons* *cake* *pie*

      • Damn it, there’s no chocolate in my desk.
        Hmmm, Starbucks? Or 7-11?

        • caoil

           /  September 12, 2012

          7-11 has more of a range of chocolate choices, if that helps?

        • mightbelying

           /  September 12, 2012

          Starbucks! Pumpkin spice lattes and salted caramel mochas are back.

          … I no longer have the diss as an excuse to indulge in these. For at least a week I am using celebrating the end of the diss as the excuse to indulge in them.

          • mmmm, salted caramel mochas…..

          • David L

             /  September 12, 2012

            I am reminded of a comment that I saw on Facebook the other day: “It’s September! Pumpkin-flavored EVERYTHING is right around the corner!”

            • caoil

               /  September 12, 2012

              Didn’t that have a picture of Ned Stark with it? (at least, the one I saw did)

            • There is pumpkin spice whiskey. I don’t know how to feel about this.

              http://www.corsairartisan.com/spirits/experimental/pumpkin-spice-moonshine/

            • dave in texas

               /  September 12, 2012

              I “invented” the pumpkin pancakes at Kerbey Lane Cafe some years back. It was getting late, and it was late night shift’s job to make special pancakes for the next day, which usually just involved putting frozen berries into buttermilk batter, or if time allowed, cutting fresh fruit (usually bananas) and putting it in the batter. This particular night, we had no berries and there wasn’t really time to cut the metric fuckton of fruit necessary to make a day’s worh of specials.

              We did however have a bunch of canned pumpkin. I put one of those ginormous cans of pumpkin into a 5-gallon bucket of buttermilk batter, along with some cinnamon, nutmeg, and allspice, and voila–pumpkin pancakes. I was afraid the pumpkin would make the batter too dense to rise properly, but they just puffed right up, and were mighty tasty, as well. Did a couple more buckets (3 was the daily par) and it was all done in about 10 minutes. I’m somewhat proud to say that they still serve them a lot, especially around the holidays.

      • mightbelying

         /  September 12, 2012

        Cake AND pie !? Whoa. I have seriously hit the big time.

        Internet cakepie for everybody!

    • Snoopy dance!

    • Bookwoman

       /  September 12, 2012

      Yay!! Many congratulations!!

    • koolaide

       /  September 12, 2012

      Congratulations!!!

    • doginajacket

       /  September 12, 2012

      Yay for you! does this mean we can call you when things get timey-whimey?

      • mightbelying

         /  September 12, 2012

        I am really going to have to watch Dr. Who now because everybody keeps making jokes that I don’t get. What’s a TARDIS?

        • doginajacket

           /  September 13, 2012

          The TARDIS is the Doctor’s spaceship/time machine that is disguised as a blue police call box. (She’s supposed to blend in with her environment but got stuck while visiting London.)

    • JHarper2

       /  September 12, 2012

      Snoopy Dance for the Doctor!! Also Cake and Pie. And all the best wishes possible.

    • Does Xander-doing-the-Snoopy-Dance for MBL!

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  September 12, 2012

      Congratulations, Doctor! Here’s your TARDIS. (We’ve filled it with pies which are themselves filled with pumpkin cupcakes. They are the most deadly foes you will ever face.)

    • efgldman

       /  September 12, 2012

      Doctor, I have this pain right here….
      Also too: WOOT!!!!

    • socioprof

       /  September 12, 2012

      Yay, Dr. mightbelying!!!!!!!!!

      As for the salted caramel mochas, I say go for them as long as they’re available. And I’m also a doctor, so I am totes qualified to tell you that. (Ok, maybe, I am only totes qualified to tell you that since I love those damned things–as my Starbucks receipt from this morning shows.)

      • All the doctors in the house say yeah!

        /ellaesther goes to a corner as all she has is a Masters.

      • mightbelying

         /  September 12, 2012

        I have been dropping the “I’m a doctor” line to justify totally random things. I do not think this will ever get old. It is particularly fun to do it to my siblings. “I get shotgun because I’m a doctor.” TRUMP CARD. IF YOU WANT TO SIT IN THE FRONT NOW YOU HAVE TO GO TO GRAD SCHOOL.

    • wearyvoter

       /  September 12, 2012

      Yayness!

  5. If you ever do a Huff Post about City Of Heroes community fighting to save the game, get in touch with ASAP…

  6. Captain_Button

     /  September 12, 2012

    Bronchitis sucks. Or maybe it would be better to say it blows?

  7. David L

     /  September 12, 2012

    Has anyone else seen the first couple episodes of “The New Normal”?

    I’m trying hard to like it. It seems like a great concept for a show, and yet, it’s just so very, very Ryan Murphy, with its characters that vacillate wildly back and forth between crude stereotypes and fully-formed human beings, whiplash-inducing swings in emotional tone, and that one character who exists solely to be horifically bigoted and say inexcusably-rude things without ever facing any actual consequences.

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  September 12, 2012

      If it’s not scifi/fantasy nerdery, I tend to be a very late adopter of shows, to the point of often skipping entirely (Lost and 24, here’s looking at you), so I haven’t seen any.

      Given all the negatives you’ve listed, what are the positives, if any, that make it a show you are trying very hard to like?

      • David L

         /  September 12, 2012

        A huge part of it is that it’s one more place where gay men are given the “just like everyone” treatment, which is sadly rare. What I read is that there are parts of the surrogate-pregnancy story that aren’t really accurate, but it’s still a hurdle that a real same-sex couple would have to face.

        Also, Ryan Murphy created/wrote the two best same-sex couples on TV last season (on Glee). Andrew Rannels and Justin Bartha are talented actors and have chemistry together.

        • I heard an interview with Rannels on Fresh Air as I was driving to Wisconsin the other day, and I’m telling you, he was just about the most charming human being I have ever heard on the radio waves. Charming and totes adorbs! I wanted to pinch his cheek and give him pie, and I very excitedly called the husband (from the road!) to tell him to DVR the pilot.

          And for all the reasons you stated above – meh. I’m going to give it a few more weeks, but if it doesn’t improve on the pilot, I’ll be moving on.

    • LizR

       /  September 12, 2012

      I saw the first episode and was not a fan, for all the reasons you lay out here. I wish someone other than Ryan Murphy would get a shot at writing gay characters in established relationships, because his writing vacillates so much between sense-making fully fleshed out characters and cardboard stereotypes.

      I’m more hopeful about Julie White’s character on Go On, but unfortunately due to the structure of the show she’s widowed, and it’s not clear yet if that show is going to settle into being a lower concept Community with well developed supporting characters or devolve into stereotypes and nasty jokes. She was really fabulous in the first episode though, and her character has a really specific and personal reaction to her partner’s death that seems to have more to do with the specifics of their relationship and how her partner died than the fact that her partner was a woman.

  8. PS I was on the road (quite literally – I had stopped for gas) when I posted the Monday open thread and was then in the depths of Bad Receptionville, WI helping my friend move that day and the next. The result being that I have nearly no idea what y’all talked about.

    I think I’ll go find out now!

    • Actually, on second thought, I’d better go do all the work that has piled up in the meantime…. I’ll read it when I take breaks.

      #sigh

    • caoil

       /  September 12, 2012

      We were erudite, and witty, and charming, and lovely. Or, in the immortal words of one Stephen Fry:
      I think it was Donald Mainstock, the great amateur squash player who pointed out how lovely I was. Until that time I think it was safe to say that I had never really been aware of my own timeless brand of loveliness. But his words smote me, because of course you see, I am lovely in a fluffy moist kind of way and who would have it otherwise?

      I walk, and let’s be splendid about this, in a highly accented cloud of gorgeousness that isn’t far short of being, quite simply terrific.

      The secret of smooth almost shiny loveliness, of the order of which we are discussing, in this simple, frank, creamy sort of way, doesn’t reside in oils, unguents, balms, ointments, creams, astringents, milks, moisturisers, liniments, lubricants, embrocations or balsams, to be rather divine for just one noble moment, it resides, and I mean this in a pink slightly special way, in ones attitude of mind.

      To be gorgeous, and high and true and fine and fluffy and moist and sticky and lovely, all you have to do is believe that one is gorgeous and high and true and fine and fluffy and moist and sticky and lovely. And I believe it of myself, tremulously at first and then with rousing heat and passion, because, stopping off for a second to be super again, I’m so often told it. That’s the secret really.

      • A) Of course you were! It’s in the nature of those who join the Horde.

        B) That is the most wonderful thing I’ve read in a very long time. (Also, not for nothing: “embrocations”!)

  9. koolaide

     /  September 12, 2012

    any chance the iphone 5 info gets burried by events in Lybia?

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  September 12, 2012

      I can only hope. I like my iPhone, but the week of breathless media rapture every year about a flippin’ portable computer with a handful of minor tech upgrades is never less than ludicrously overblown (maybe the camera is marginally improved!!1!one!!)

      By contrast, what is playing out in Libya is a distillation of the intense forces that have been transforming our planet in recent decades. There are few veins of news to mine that are richer or more significant to where our world is going.

    • Ah, to live in a world such as that.

  10. So let me see if i got this straight:
    Romney camp muffed response to Libya in attempt to make narrative fit preconceived facts?
    Attempt fails, Romney comes out, doubles down, smirks. While doing so either gets the capital of Libya wrong or doesn’t know the difference between embassies and consulates.
    Am I missing anything?
    Isn’t this the same week McCain flubbed the economy so badly four years ago?

    • efgldman

       /  September 12, 2012

      Mittster is a truly amazing being.
      He has gone from mendacious, to incompetent, to fully and enthusiastically loathsome in just a little over two weeks.
      Do you know hard that is in 21st-century USA?

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  September 12, 2012

      Yup. Pretty much at exactly the same point in relation to the respective Conventions. Significant news crisis of staggering importance, completely Keystone Cops response and execution.

      Obama is so blessed in his enemies that it is almost obscene, sometimes.

      • cofax

         /  September 12, 2012

        Obama is so blessed in his enemies that it is almost obscene, sometimes

        Yup. Charlie Pierce put up a post this morning saying that Obama could have lost the election in the last few days, because of the Chicago teachers’ strike and the violence in Libya, except that Romney is bungling it all even harder.

    • koolaide

       /  September 12, 2012

      TPM jsut posted that Mitt is tripling down on his initial statements–now saying the White House is implicitly acknowledging Mitt’s criticism as right by distancing themselves from the original Cairo Embassy tweet.

      • Dig dig dig!
        Dig dig dig!
        Dig your campaign!
        Into a deep hole!
        Awwww, dig dig dig!
        Dig dig dig!
        **wanders off singing**

        • carlosthedwarf

           /  September 12, 2012

          The successor to Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran?

        • koolaide

           /  September 12, 2012

          srsly. I do believe if that picture of him smirking or smiling or whatever he’s doing pierces the general conciousness (especially of low information pick at random voters) it dooms him even more and could doom down ticket folks.

          There’s already the smirkingmitt tumblr so I’m guessing the smirk will get more attention…

        • Reminds me of the truly terrifying modern folk song “Digwell Day”–can never remember who wrote it, but google the lyrics and think of Romney’s ilk as you do.

    • koolaide

       /  September 12, 2012

      Now TMP has an Obama response to the Mitt statements that will leave a permanent mark:

      “Gov. Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later and as president one of the things I’ve learned is you can’t do that,”

      Damn.

    • baiskeli

       /  September 12, 2012

      I’m currently involved in a bit of a back and forth/troll stomping on a thread at the Atlantic, I’m proud of my retort to someone who said that Obama went overseas during the Bush Presidency and tried to act Presidential

      Romney went overseas during the Obama Administration and tried to act presidential.

      Instead, he acted like a cross between the village idiot and Dale Carnergie’s anti-matter twin, with a hefty dose of Moe, Larry and Curly.

  11. David L

     /  September 12, 2012

    I unfriended someone on Facebook this morning over politics. This guy is/was a fraternity brother of mine (from a different chapter/school). After he graduated, he joined the USAF as a pilot, and at that time went from someone who occasionally mentioned a preference for Republicans to someone who wore far-right politics on his sleeve.

    This morning, he posted this: Everyone remembers where they were and how they felt on September 11. But do you remember September 12? How angry you were? How you wanted to go out and join the armed forces to fight the bastards who did this to us? It was delayed a little bit, but I got my goal eventually. What have you done for your country since 9/11?

    The response which I drafted but didn’t post: You may have been angry after 9/11, but I was sad. Sad about the tragedy that had been brought upon this nation and sad that it was going to be used as justification for more violence, death, and destruction. What I have done for my country is try my damnedest to convince my fellow Americans that it makes us no less safe to go out and treat the Arab world like it doesn’t get to have some say in its own affairs and it’s up to us white-skinned people to show them how it’s done. Look no further than what happened in Benghazi and Cairo yesterday if you think that war or the constant threat of war has made us any safer.

  12. I recently asked my mother about her father’s family (I already knew some stuff about her mother’s family.) Here is part of her response:

    Both of [my father’s] parents were born in Europe. His mother was born in Częstochowa Poland. His father’s birth certificate said he was born in Lithuania, and supposedly he had served in the Russian army. They met in the United States, and were married in their mid twenties. The family identified themselves are German because they were Lutheran, and some German was spoken at home. I never knew this grandfather, he died before I was born. I remember her though – ‘grossmama’ which means big mama in German.

    They had 12 children, all of whom lived to adulthood except one: “She died at 3-4 from burns. She pulled down a pot of boiling water off the stove and scalded herself.” My grandfather was #9, and I only ever got to meet one of his siblings.

    It’s a fairly typical story and yet for some reason it blows me away. For one thing, I knew that none of my mother’s ancestors came from English-speaking countries, and yet to realize that my great-grandmother was called “grossmama” is . . . amazing.

  13. You know what, Mr. Rose-colored? Yes, we have a 24-hour translation option. WE ALSO HAVE AN 8-HOUR TRANSLATION OPTION, so if you want your translation within 8 hours, PLEASE SELECT THAT ONE. I would like to be paid according to what I’m actually doing, dammit.
    Sorry about the capslock. Oh, and the guy’s client-name really is Rose-colored, that one’s not my fault. Off I go to do some more translating.

    • As a person who does a lot of contract work, and has done her fair share of translation, I support you in your rage.

      /shakes fist in easterly direction

  14. I think I was just mistaken for a serious blogger of some sort of influential value–a PR person sent me a press release for an idol contestant from last season.

    • doginajacket

       /  September 12, 2012

      Perhaps the PR person is lurking in the horde?

    • koolaide

       /  September 12, 2012

      You are a serious blogger! And you’ve been plagiarized to prove it😀

  15. baiskeli

     /  September 12, 2012

    Big company got back in touch with me. Apparently after the first set of interviews they’ve decided not to go ahead with me. I can apply again in 18 months.

    I’m going to go stand in the corner. I feel like Hammie from Over the Hedge. I’m not Stupid!

    • A) I think that zenobiajo meant to reply to you (below).

      B) Aw! I’m so sorry! That sucks.

      • baiskeli

         /  September 12, 2012

        Thanks. But in the large scheme of things, tis but a flesh wound.

        I currently have a job and I like it, it’s just that we’ll be moving to the West Coast and this would have been a perfect opportunity.

        Ironically, another big company (smaller, less well known) just got in touch with me, they are interesting and while they are looking to hire in this area (Boston) they also have a San Francisco office. I’ll talk to their recruiter and see whether they have engineering positions there.

    • I’m kinda sorry they passed you up because it seems like a setback, but on the plus side we have this great set of job opportunities in Sunny Seattle…

  16. zenobiajo

     /  September 12, 2012

    Bear up young man!🙂 I am sure that the right thing will come along in time🙂 P.S. I am older and retired, so I have been around the block a few times. Until such time as the right job/position/post comes along, I am sending my prayers and good wishes your way.

    • baiskeli

       /  September 12, 2012

      Thanks!

      They actually contacted me out of the blue and I thought “Why the Hell Not”.

  17. koolaide

     /  September 12, 2012

    There is now an open thread at the home base. Put up at 6pm.

  18. Bookwoman

     /  September 12, 2012

    Public service announcement: TNC has put up an OTAN, or rather an OTAS: Open Thread at Six.

  19. I’m usually pretty shy, but here’s the newspaper article about me and my book:

    http://snovalleystar.com/2012/09/12/eighth-time-is-charm-for-local-author

    • zenobiajo

       /  September 12, 2012

      Congrats!!! As one who only THINKS of writing a book, I can only commend you for your efforts🙂

    • baiskeli

       /  September 13, 2012

      Congratulations!!, that is awesome!