You look like you could use an open thread.

It’s yours….

Standard FYI clause: I generally wait about 2 hours after Ta-Nehisi would typically open a thread (roughly noon, EST, back when such a thing was typical…!), and if none is forthcoming, I put one up here.

42 Comments

  1. Dear Rev Burns,

    We recently received an incredibly stupid letter written on your letterhead. We thought you should be made aware that some moron is pretending to be you.

    Sincerely,

    The Baltimore Ravens

  2. Ta-Nehisi kinda left an OTAN up on Sunday of all days. Dunno why.

    • koolaide

       /  September 10, 2012

      Ours is not to wonder why. Ours is to just participate in the awesomeness😉

      • Or not, as it were. I don’t even check the site on weekends (my netbook refuses to grok the Atlantic’s site, among other reasons) so I missed it entirely.

    • Bookwoman

       /  September 10, 2012

      So if we just keep it going, can we have a perpetual OT?

    • Bob Jones' Neighbor

       /  September 10, 2012

      I imagine that it was in lieu of the NFL commentary threads that he used to post during football season.

  3. Captain_Button

     /  September 10, 2012

    Anyone got a link that explains video buffering for the complete idiot, especially why it doesn’t increase the buffer size every time it has to pause?

    • doginajacket

       /  September 10, 2012

      I cannot actually help you, but I can tell you that we have named the buffering elf “Buffy” like the vampire slayer, and whenever we have to wait for buffering we start cheering her on. “C’mon, Buffy! you can do it! A little more! yaaaay! Buffy!!!1!”

  4. Bob Jones' Neighbor

     /  September 10, 2012

    Spent the last week off line, but enjoying myself at the Golden Retriever Club of America’s annual all-Golden show. This year just outside St Louis. Our oldest dog, Avery, won his 12-and-over Veteran’s class. And our young hotshot – named Alex – got a Judge’s Award of Merit, which put him among the top few dogs (out of 850) in the show, although not quite Best of Breed. We’ll take what we can get =8-)

    • Ah, the joys of goldens. We have two in the office, the older one (he’s 12) probably has some Great Pyrenees in him.

    • cofax

       /  September 10, 2012

      My sister’s 14-month-old Golden bitch is possibly the prettiest dog I’ve ever known. And she’s a complete demon, sigh. Smart, stubborn, and hard: correction rolls off her like water; she’s distractible like nobody’s business; and she has figured out that nothing we can do afterwards is as excellent as the cheese she can steal from the counter or the shoes she can hold hostage as she dances around the living room.

      Of course, there isn’t a mean bone in her body: she’s just full of energy and smarts. Cuddles really well, but oh, it would be nice if she were just a little easier to work with.

      • koolaide

         /  September 10, 2012

        you’d think a post about an adolescent dog’s misbehavior would make me glad not to have a dog right now. But no. It did the opposite. Made me just want to meet & play with the sweet pup. Too bad I work too far from home right now (45min commute) to get a dog😦

    • efgoldman

       /  September 10, 2012

      And ofcourse, you tried to put the ribbons on the digs, and they ate ’em.

  5. baiskeli

     /  September 10, 2012

    Saturday, I planned to do a 90 mile solo ride from home,out to the top of Mt Wachusett and back. Due to the vagaries of bike gps, I ended up getting lost a number of times. I did make it to the top of Mt Wachusett and back home, but my 90 mile ride turned into a 126 mile suffer fest. And I dodged a couple of thunderstorms too.

    I’ve done Mt Wachusett by itself (driving to the ski station and then cycling up). It was hard. It’s even harder when you hit it 70 miles into the ride.

    http://ridewithgps.com/trips/906462

    • Captain_Button

       /  September 10, 2012

      I just did my usual 7 mile bike to lunch and back Saturday.

      • carlosthedwarf

         /  September 10, 2012

        I did my 4 miles to my coffee shop and back. I wanted to make myself work a little harder and take advantage of the dry weather, so I devised a route back that would maximize hills.

    • NealH

       /  September 10, 2012

      Headed north this weekend. My wife did the Vancouver-Whistler Gran Fondo (76 mi., 6200′) and had a great time. She and her friend took a nice and relaxed pace and she could have kept going–the quick 60 miler last week and the 23 mi./4000′ day with the last 3 miles at >10% before that took a lot more out of her.

      Sunday, I took my 5 year old mountain biking on the green single track in Lost Lake Park in Whistler. Started out kind of rocky (in more ways than one), but after a couple of snack breaks and getting on some more cruiser trails, we ended strong, and when asked by our neighbor his favorite part of the weekend, he said mountain biking. He also had a fun time at the Kid’s Gran Fundo Friday night where we met Simon Whitfield (a Canadian triathlete) who was super cool and all around fantastic with my son and all of the kids.

      All in all a successful weekend. And now I’m considering looking for road bikes. Any suggestions? How much should I really plan on spending to get a decent road bike?

      • baiskeli

         /  September 11, 2012

        Your wife is hardcore! The Vancouver-Whistler Gran Fondo sounds like a beast, 6200ft in 76 miles is quite a lot of climbing. Also her other rides have serious climbing.

        Sounds like she had a great time, and you had a great time mountain biking.

        Regarding bikes, I just answered a friends similar question. It depends. Now is the time to buy (end of season) or even possibly get last years model at a steep discount. There is really no good reason to spend more than $1000 – $1500 on a road bike. Anything above that is diminishing returns (my bike cost $2700, down from $3800, but its because I wanted a super-light dream bike).

        I’d say get a carbon bike (unless you don’t like carbon), with at least Shimano 105 components throughout (including brakes, stay away from cheaper Tektro brakes) that has a decent set of wheels (anything Mavic Aksium/Mavic Ksyrium Equipe and above).

        Also, are you looking for a bike for comfortable long distances or are you into racing?

  6. David L

     /  September 10, 2012

    (Note: I’m going to say this and then walk away from the internet for
    a while for the sake of my own sanity.)

    This is just off-topic enough that I feel like it needs to go into an
    open thread: I’ve found the pushback to the Cord Jefferson piece
    harder to deal with than the piece itself. This morning, I realized
    why: For all that homosexuality and pedophilia are completely
    different kettles of fish, so much of the demonization of pedophiles
    that I’ve seen (some of which has crept into TNC’s responses around
    the edges) reminds me of the anti-gay rhetoric that has been said to
    or around me over the years with “children” substituted wherever
    “person of the same sex” would have appeared, right down to the “the
    poor souls can’t help what they’re attracted to, but that’s fine just
    as long as they don’t act on it.” I’ve even gotten the “sexual
    orientation towards rape” thing before–some time around eighth grade,
    one of the neighborhood churches made a claim that it was impossible
    for a man to consent to another man, and that idea was the talk of the
    middle school cafeteria for a little while.

    I understand, personally, what it is to live in a world where you
    don’t feel like you can act on your urges. With one brief but notable
    exception, it was how I lived from that moment some time around the
    summer between fifth and sixth grade when I realized why I was drawn
    to certain boys around me until I was safely off at college. When, I
    had a brief fling with a fellow 17-year-old (which meant that we were
    of age) and we lost our virginity to each other, I couldn’t help but
    think about the fact that we were committing a felony under the laws
    of the State of Texas as they stood at that time, for the sole reason
    that we were both men. (And the law hasn’t really gone anywhere–the
    Supreme Court ruling in Lawrence v. Texas made the law unenforceable,
    but it’s still on the books and AFAIK, the platform of the Republican
    Party of Texas includes finding a way to reinstate it.)

    I don’t expect this to be the next great battle for sexual freedoms
    (if anything, I think it will be formal recognition of non-monogamous
    relationships), but if it turns out that pedophilia is just as innate
    as same-sex attraction or transgenderism, then we are going to have to
    start thinking long and hard about how we handle that.

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  September 10, 2012

      Children is one where the legal line is always going to have to be drawn in some manner. Anyone who actually is predisposed to pedophilia has just drawn a completely shit hand.

      Thirty-something dudes attracted to young or “barely legal” teenagers isn’t exacty rare. Often enough, we call that Asian and Russian pop culture, or “spam advertising on the Internet”. If a line is not drawn somewhere in law, we get the normalization of Roman Polanski.

      But if we do draw a line in law, sizable percentages of people (quite possibly far larger than LGBT percentages) are told “your preferrential desire, if acted upon, is a crime”.

      Similarly, there is huge plurality, and possibly an outright majority, of men whose biological sexuality would prefer to be enjoying an endless succession on one-night-stands, possibly with a long-term relationship or two somewhere in the mix. If not socialized and criminalized otherwise, quasi-deniable and not-so-deniable coercion and drugging would be on the menu as acceptable tactics in this pursuit. We as a society tell many-to-most men, and some women, “your preferential desire, if acted upon, is a crime.”

      The law has to draw a line criminalizing inebriated “consent” at some point, or else rohypnol is normalized.

      One can argue that where the line is drawn is less than ideal (consent age of 16 versus 18), or is ridiculous if crudely enforced (if a married couple has a lot of booze and then has sex, many laws will hold that both partners have raped one another). But if Polanski and rohypnol are not to be “normal human dating tactics” then lines have to be drawn.

      And if one’s preferences are consistently on the wrong sides of those legal lines, it well and truly sucks to have those preferences. But not nearly as much as it would suck to be the recipient of those preferences.

      • efgoldman

         /  September 10, 2012

        And if one’s preferences are consistently on the wrong sides of those legal lines, it well and truly sucks to have those preferences. But not nearly as much as it would suck to be the recipient of those preferences.

        I was going to respond with some kind of comment, but this is exactly right.
        Plus, this could be a teflon-lined slippery slope:
        “I’m an alcoholic. I can’t stop drinking and driving. Sorry about the car full of kids, but…”
        “I’m a pyromaniac. I have to watch fires. Sometimes I need to make my own. Sorry about the apartment house full of people, but…”

      • David L

         /  September 10, 2012

        I’m not really in disagreement with the idea that there has to be a line somewhere, and I’m not really in favor of moving it away from “consent”, even in the spots where what constitutes consent gets fuzzy. But I do feel like there are some unfortunate parallels between this particular moral outrage over sexuality and some past ones that make it hard for me to look at it objectively, because of my own hangups.

        However, I do wish that we could have a discussion about the attraction to children, as separate from child rape (Jefferson didn’t help this by choosing people who engaged in rape of children because they were attracted to them.) I don’t think the two are completely synonymous, though there is clearly some overlap. It’s possible to be attracted to someone who is unable or unwilling to give their consent without raping them, and I would assume that rape of children is no different from rape of adults in that attraction doesn’t always play a role. As I said earlier, I see all these parallels, and I feel like the issue we need to look it is what we do with these other groups that have been ostracized for their sexuality, now that we’re starting to let the most vocal and most socially acceptable group that was ostracized from society integrate themselves fully.

        • Darth Thulhu

           /  September 10, 2012

          I entirely missed those threads until I read you here. Going back and reading the Jefferson piece and brouhaha was bracing. He completely blurs the line between orientation and rape behavior.

          There is good discussion and soul-searching to be done on “horrible natural urges” and how we treat people who have them versus people who act on them. Jefferson’s article completely failed to be a good platform for starting that conversation.

  7. socioprof

     /  September 10, 2012

    Hey peeps,

    I just submitted my application binder for promotion and tenure. The weight has been lifted. And replaced by a sense of anxiety, but still, a weight is gone.

  8. Darth Thulhu

     /  September 10, 2012

    This week in interracial relations.

    (Also in “D’awwww”)

    • baiskeli

       /  September 10, 2012

      The first comment (Game, Set, Match)

      Couldn’t do it with Romney. With all the square edges.

  9. Omg. Do I ever need an open thread
    So it started when (name redacted) lost the only prop she was in charge of–the ribbon that they were supposed to cut for the opening.
    So we send (coworker, name also redacted) to AC Moore to buy more. She runs off in her car.

    So it’s 2:25. The damn thing starts in five minutes. the guests are showing up. The press is here.
    She who is not actually my boss comes down in her car and parks to deliver some thing that she’s been freaking out about that she accidentally had delivered to her house instead by mistake.
    Co worker whos name was also redacted comes down the same hill a minute later and stops, waving the ribbon at me. I run up to her.

    She who is not my boss, but who is very much co worker whos name is redacted’s boss doesn’t look behind her and backs up directly into co worker whose name is redacted’s car.

    What does she do? she gets out of her car and starts screaming at coworker.. in front of the press. In front of everyone. Screams at HER EMPLOYEE for an accident SHE caused.

    I think that just sums up everything.

    Later She who is not my boss is dropping off the idiot things she was stressing out about at my desk and she says huffily, “Well, I just don’t know what to say.”

    I bit my tongue hard not to suggest “I’m sorry.” might be a good place to start.

    • koolaide

       /  September 10, 2012

      passes anibundel large chocolate bar

      dang. that’s quite a Monday.

      • this month just won’t fucking quit. I need the year to end. Now.

        • Captain_Button

           /  September 10, 2012

          The Mayans have already moved up the end 10 days or so, but I don’t thing they can do more than that.

        • Darth Thulhu

           /  September 10, 2012

          Boom! Happy New Year!

          Sorry you slept through the holidays, but Romney’s Inauguration party should be pretty lavish. Mwa-Ha-Ha!

          (you may commence screaming now)

          More seriously: Sorry work is being so ridiculous.

    • caoil

       /  September 10, 2012

      Would you like to set all the things on fire with me? That might work.

    • wearyvoter

       /  September 10, 2012

      Hoping for a sinkhole to open beneath she who is not your boss.

  10. Oh, boy. http://towson.patch.com/articles/state-dems-say-its-congressional-candidate-broke-election-law So now all the Voter ID peeps are going to jump up and down squawking ‘voter fraud’ over and over when the violation in question is both minor and something that ID laws wouldn’t prevent.

    The cherry on top is that now we’re guaranteed another two years of Andy Harris in Congress. I’m going to lose my lunch.

  11. “Star Trek Into Darkness” is not a movie title, it’s the first sentence of someone’s awful fan fiction

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  September 10, 2012

      Mirror Spock, Gul Ducat, the Borg, and the Great Link having a slash fic orgy comes to mind.

      • Gonzai55

         /  September 10, 2012

        Just as long as it isn’t the slash-fic of Merry, Pippin, Gwaihir & Treebeard. Yes, someone did that. Meep.

      • David L

         /  September 10, 2012

        Mirror Spock/Mirror Kira BDSM might get interesting…