A Friday open thread – poetry & music welcome!

Sing it, say it, tell it people!

Standard FYI clause: My rule of thumb is that I wait for 2 hours after Ta-Nehisi would usually open a thread (roughly noon, EST), and if none is forthcoming, I put one up here.

130 Comments

  1. Captain Button

     /  June 15, 2012

    Silly Nerd game of the day: Game of Thrones is just a wetter Dune?

    Jaqen H’ghar – Face Dancer

    Varys – Mentat

    Undying Ones – Mentats with blue lips from drinking Shade of the Evening instead of red lips from Sapho.

    Daenerys – Disappears into the desert, joins violent barbarian culture, returns having mastered deadly monsters.

    Other parallels?

  2. koolaide

     /  June 15, 2012

    Music?

    • I’m still working on the long-term project of guiding the musical tastes of my nieces and nephews. For my money, I think you have to take a two-pronged approach to this problem. Prong one is the Beatles. This is the easiest way to get kids started, because they have some silly songs that they can sing. But eventually you have to move to the second prong or risk having them turn into wussy little twee nerds forever. And prong two is James Brown. You get those two prongs, then you’re on the path towards enlightenment.

      • chingona

         /  June 15, 2012

        Do their parents not have good taste? We just listen to all our music around the kids, and since we, of course, have impeccable taste, so do our kids.😉

        • I don’t think my brother-in-law really listens to music. My own parents didn’t really listen to music that much when I was growing up (all of my exposure when I was a little kid came from my own uncle.)

          • chingona

             /  June 15, 2012

            It’s a weird thing. Music was a big deal in our house, but my dad’s own parents don’t listen to music at all. I think there’s three records of show tunes in their entire house. Different tastes, I get. Not listening to music is hard for me to understand. And yet, there are people.

          • My father had a wall of vinyl and reel-to-reels (pauses to retrieve an onion), almost entirely classical, and demanded we listen and “IDENTIFY!” I kinda made a point of forgetting much of it, but still wound up hosting classical music hours in college because I was the only one who could pronounce the names.

            Interestingly enough, my brother and I both emerged from this as fans of progressive and alternative rock. Generally my brother and I don’t get along, but he’s told people I’m the only one who gets his taste in music. (He doesn’t always get mine, because I’ll listen to almost anything and he doesn’t see the appeal of blues, world, jazz, r&b, etc.).

            • efgoldman

               /  June 15, 2012

              and demanded we listen and “IDENTIFY!”
              He’s lucky you didn’t grow up to hate music altogether.
              We always had it on (I did classical music radio for 15 years, mrs efgoldman is a concert soprano, choral singer and choir director), but we let the kid choose what she wanted to hear. For gifts she asked for botjh Haydn symphonies and The Who. She’s got great and very catholic taste and I trust it imlicitly.

      • watson42

         /  June 15, 2012

        My sister and brother-in-law have done too good a job with their kids. My 12 year-old neice won’t listen to anything written after 1965 (she won’t even listen to mid-late Beatles, including Revolver which is pretty much heresy in my family). Her 10 yr old brother only listens to jazz, though he makes it into the 1970s. I’ve been slowly turning them on to jazz-funk and hold out hopes they might eventually like something written in my lifetime, or even theirs. 🙂


    • My niecelings new favorite song.

  3. If you have even the littlest bit of interest in this post re: Obama’s Iran policy & a neocon attack ad against him: https://emilylhauserinmyhead.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/bill-kristol-and-the-emergency-committee-for-israel-liars-or-very-forgetful/ please spread it far and wide.

    I thank you.

  4. I hope fashion blogs are welcome too!
    Resortwear 2013: http://bit.ly/M76u5y

    Includes Jason Wu, Carlos Miele, Anna Sui, Balenciaga, Gucci, Monique Lhuillier, Lanvin, BCBG by Max Azria, Herve Leger by Max Azria, Marc Jacobs, Yigal Azrouel, Oscar de la Renta, Chanel and more!

    Plus there’s a dress made of wine, GRRM worrying he won’t finish his books before GoT overtakes him and more!

    TOMORROW IS THE DC HORDE MEETUP. BE THERE. ETC.

    • Captain Button

       /  June 15, 2012

      “I will shed no wine before its time.”

      • watson42

         /  June 15, 2012

        You’ve made me laugh out loud with both this and the “don’t pull” comment.

    • I’ll be there. When is a better question, I didn’t know Baltimore traffic was going to be tied up by an airshow so I’ll have to come down the long way.

      Is there a specific spot in the park where we’re supposed to meet up?

      • I was going to plant my blanket next to the water’s edge, provided the Potomac cooperates and does not stink.

        • scone

           /  June 15, 2012

          Honestly, Potomac stink reminds me of my youth and thus is somewhat soothing.

          I am eating an epic-multi-course meal on Saturday night, so I’ll be bringing veggies and a greek yogurt based dip in order to save room. But Imma still have one of those blondies.

    • I will miss you all….

      • Captain Button

         /  June 15, 2012

        Don’t pull, squeeze.

        • Here’s a thing I love about you: You give me so much more geek cred than I actually deserve.

          I have no idea what you’re talking about, but am so glad that you thought I would!

          • Captain Button

             /  June 15, 2012

            It is a variant of the old joke “I missed him so much.” ‘Next time aim right between the eyes’. playing on differing definitions of “miss”.

            “Don’t pull, squeeze.” is I am told one of the things they are always telling you in firearms training. Because pulling or jerking the trigger spoils your aim and makes you miss your target.

            • wearyvoter

               /  June 15, 2012

              Or the bumper sticker: I miss my ex, but my aim is improving.

            • Thank you. But having said “thank you,” I don’t believe I’ll be following your advice. I could never shoot any of you! O_O Well, possibly Craig. But only in a pinch.

              • efgoldman

                 /  June 15, 2012

                A little birdy told me that Craig actually spent a couple of years in my neck of the woods (New Bedford) in his misspent yout’

  5. So I got out of work at 12noon, which I thought meant I would miss the first half of Ukraine France. But then it poured. So now my break between games to go grocery shopping is fubared, and I will miss the end of the game instead.

    • koolaide

       /  June 15, 2012

      Lightening. It’s not fun when you’re on the field.

      • Captain Button

         /  June 15, 2012

        The new sport of superheros!

        • koolaide

           /  June 15, 2012

          Yeah…

          Back in the day I was a keeper. I’m not messing around w/ lightening while standing next to metal posts.

  6. Finally finished reading GoT last night. One of those rare instances where I like the visual version better than the book. I think it’s the POV issue – the TV camera sees all without comment, whereas the book has the POV character’s bias and information is often as not secondhand.

    • Captain Button

       /  June 15, 2012

      The other advantages of the TV series is that you get to see more scenes that aren’t in the books because a viewpoint character wasn’t there. Cersei and Robert’s marital dysfunction is shown much better in the series, for example.

  7. caoil

     /  June 15, 2012

    1. I have just finished N.K. Jemisin’s The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms, and I loved it, I’ll be plying it on people incessantly for a while, though I wish I had waited until the other two books were out as now I have to wait like a petulant child.
    2. I took season 1 of ‘Slings & Arrows’ out of the library and OMG, everyone who ever recommended this show to me was so. right. ❤ I always knew Paul Gross was an excellent actor, I've loved him in everything I've seen, but the 15-20 seconds he spends explaining/channelling Ophelia…well, I had to watch it twice, it was so amazing. I cannot wait to see Colm Feore in one of the later seasons, too.

    • Um, I think all of the 100,000 Kingdoms books are out. In fact, Jemisin has just published the first volume of a new series.

      • caoil

         /  June 15, 2012

        Am I that far behind? I thought the second one was juuuust on its way.
        Well, going to the library today anyways, so I shall have a peek. Though I still have 6 other books out at present (including a 500+ page tome on Elizabeth I, which I’m not far enough into) & probably not best to add another one or two right now. ACK.

        • caoil

           /  June 15, 2012

          Well, her website says that the third one came out in October 2011, so you are right, so it’s my confusion likely based on the publication date of this one being 2010, and assuming she wouldn’t have two other large books out in the intervening 1.5 years! I am, it seems, fairly acclimatized to long waits between books.

    • Mira

       /  June 15, 2012

      I must see this! I have an abiding love for Paul Gross post-Due South.

      • caoil

         /  June 15, 2012

        Yes! Do! Watch all three seasons and then sit over here with me cajoling the universe to cause a 4th season to happen (apparently it’s a possibility, I’ve been told).

        Did you watch Passchendaele?

  8. So my knee gave out a few minutes ago. But did I let that stop me? No! Blondies are done! bed Bath and beyond coupons are retrieved from the basement. As soon as I can handle getting in the car, I WILL SHOP DAMNIT.

  9. koolaide

     /  June 15, 2012

    Also, too. The directive to use what amounts to “prosecutorial discretion” in deportation is freaking some people out.

    • dave in texas

       /  June 15, 2012

      Anything short of “hunt’em down with bloodhounds and deport’em all, preferably after a stimulating round or two of torture” is going to freak some people out.

      • koolaide

         /  June 15, 2012

        Unfortunately, you’re right. sigh.

  10. dmf

     /  June 15, 2012

    for fridays and simple pleasures:

    One happy hour drink in Orono and now I’m driving
    up the Penobscot just for kicks, past the bridge to Indian Island,
    past the just-closed Georgia Pacific plant, tidy yards
    of Milford, “Place of a Million Parts” junkyard,
    the drink still warm in my belly, the strong, true edge of things

    glowing with rich clarity in the late summer, late afternoon light.
    Dylan’s tangled up in blue on the radio, dozens of migrating
    nighthawks flit over fields along the river, crickets shrill
    in tall grass, window draft tickles my tan shoulders.
    Later tonight, the Red Sox will win with another Big Papi

    walk-off homer that will make me whoop to myself in the car.
    But for now, I’m moving through Olamon, Passadumkeag,
    away from the river, into the woods. It’s the end of a long day,
    but there still seems to be plenty of time and road ahead.
    Something about the light, the beauty of the sky, makes me think
    I should keep going right on to northern Maine, all the way
    to Canada. I could just keep driving all night, potato fields
    north of Houlton balancing the dark outside my car windows,
    lights across the St. John beckoning me over the border.
    I’ve got a full tank of gas, credit cards in my wallet. I could

    drive all the way to Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island,
    stay in some quaint inn on a craggy coast, walk low beaches
    in search of sandpipers heading south from the Arctic.
    How far north do roads go? But it grows late, shadows deepen,
    and so far from home, I realize I don’t know the station

    broadcasting tonight’s game. So it’s finally baseball
    that curbs my sudden wanderlust. It’s the simple pleasure
    of a good game coming up that makes me turn around
    to re-enter the bubble of radio reception, to start
    the long drive back to everything familiar and well-loved.

    “How Baseball Saved My Marriage” by Kristen Lindquist

  11. helensprogeny

     /  June 15, 2012

    I’ve been away. What did I miss?

    • Captain Button

       /  June 15, 2012

      The unspeakable horrors of Emily’s war with the wordpress elves.

      • JHarper2

         /  June 15, 2012

        Emily won, it appears, but if she did not destroy the ring, they will rebuild their fortress and we all have to go on a quest.

    • scone

       /  June 15, 2012

      My shoulder feels better! I’m still working on tweaking my work space (every day I get little different pains – no fun) but the massage (at a massage school) was great! I actually left thinking “Well, that felt really nice, and I could tell she was working on my tight muscles, but my back still hurts, so I guess I probably need more sessions.” AND THEN the next day I woke up and my back felt SO MUCH BETTER. It was amazing. I will be going back to her.

      • helensprogeny

         /  June 15, 2012

        I’m so glad to hear this! Having a massage therapist you know and trust can be invaluable, especially if you have recurring issues due to work or exercise. I’m so glad she worked out for you and that you’re feeling better. Alternative medicine, FTW!

  12. dmf

     /  June 15, 2012

  13. caoil

     /  June 15, 2012

    This is the music in my head today.

    • snailspace

       /  June 16, 2012

      I’m not the only one with a weird fascination for this album!

      • caoil

         /  June 17, 2012

        I adore it! Still one of my favourite soundtracks ever.

  14. Someone else is pretending that they are going to be the one to bring Snow Crash to the big screen today. Welcome to the project…..Joe Cornish, who made the best movie of 2011. Look forward to his inevitable parting of the ways in a few months time over the “direction of the project” or some such Hollywood speak; for now, perhaps we shall pretend that Snow Crash will, in fact, ever be an actual movie with actors and cameras and key grips and e’eything.

    • That seems difficult at best. Pulling that into a Hollywood action flick, which I’m sure is what they would want to do, would require so much editing that it would turn into a different story entirely.

  15. Who has a vagina?

    From the Guardian, a delightful tale of forward-thinking Republicans……

    Two female US politicians were banned from addressing the Michigan house of representatives after one used the word “vagina” and the other tried to argue for regulating vasectomies during a debate over a controversial anti-abortion bill.

    According to the Detroit News, the majority floor leader, Jim Stamas, ruled that Brown’s comments had violated the decorum of the house.

    Another Republican, Nashville, MI, representative Mike Callton, added: “What she said was offensive. It was so offensive I don’t even want to say it in front of women. I would not say that in mixed company.”

    Critics of the proposed legislation say it is an assault on women’s rights and could endanger women by making abortions harder to get in Michigan.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/michigan-politician-banned-using-word-vagina

    • Mira

       /  June 15, 2012

      So we can regulate them as long as we don’t clarify what we’re regulating? *sigh*

    • Captain Button

       /  June 15, 2012

      Will this prevent v*g*n*l-probe legistlation?

      • watson42

         /  June 15, 2012

        exactly what I was thinking. We can legislate requiring a non-medically necessary transvaginal ultrasound but we can’t *say* the word vagina? wtf? What are we, five years old?

        Also, “decorum” my vagina. Republicans want to pass laws telling me what I’m allowed to do with my own body, and how I and my doctor decide to treat it, and tell me that I’m a lying slut if I actually use my vagina or god forbid, need medical care for it and they have the unmitigated gall to cry “decorum” if I say the damn word for one of my body parts?

        • Captain Button

           /  June 15, 2012

          *Proper* women are supposed to be smooth underneath like a Barbie doll.

          What?

          • watson42

             /  June 15, 2012

            I’m trying to come up with a Stepford wife/sex doll comment here, but am failing miserably….

    • James Cornwell

       /  June 15, 2012

      These guys need to see The Vagina Monologues in the viewing style depicted by A Clockwork Orange. Repeatedly. And the MI house needs to have their twitter feed inundated with #vagina.

    • dave in texas

       /  June 15, 2012

      From the article: To clear up any lingering confusion, she [Representative Brown] noted that vagina was “the medically correct term,” adding “We’re all adults here.

      Hmm. Evidently not

      • Every time – every frickin’ time – I think the GOP couldn’t get any worse, they exceed my lowest expectations.

        Representative Brown is correct. “Vagina” is a medical term. We know this because: 1) its spelled exactly the same in Latin; 2) it shows up in medical books covering obstetrics & gynecology (a lot). Further, “vagina” was germane to discussion on a proposed law to regulate access to abortion providers.

        Republican reaction wasn’t even incoherent gibberish. I guess they’ve learned we expect that sort of thing. They instead stripped two elected representatives of their right to address the Michigan assembly, over appropriate use of a medical term that’s hundreds (if not thousands) of years old.

        It’s the ‘effing 19th century, all over again.

        • Captain Button

           /  June 15, 2012

          I think it comes originally from the latin word for a sheath or scabbard which has its own level of etymological creepiness.

    • mythopoeia

       /  June 15, 2012

      I just can’t take Stamas and Callton at face value. I think they’re just using the “shocked! shocked!” language as a convenient way to shut her argument down. They don’t care that she said “vagina.” They do care about not having her argument get traction in the Michigan House.

  16. koolaide

     /  June 15, 2012

    England or Sweden?

    • Captain Button

       /  June 15, 2012

      Feathers or lead?

    • England, although that away kit is fucking brutal. Blue? Really?

      • koolaide

         /  June 15, 2012

        I just can’t stand Terry. And that was b/f whatever happened w/ Anton Ferdinand.

        And Carrol makes is 1-0.

        • Terry is horrid. I kind of hate their players but there’s enough lingering Anglophile in me that I always root for them anyway.

          • koolaide

             /  June 15, 2012

            I’m in a similar position–I don’t hate some of this particular team’s players but that may just be b/c I don’t know enough about them😉 I do dislike Terry enough that I’m kinda hoping for some sort of embarrassing red.

            Olaf Melberg’s kinda hot. And Terry just took out Ibra. Ibra will get back somehow.

            • koolaide

               /  June 15, 2012

              Ohai, Olaf. I see what you just did.

              • Oh right, England. I remember them now.

              • The worst. The worst.

                • koolaide

                   /  June 15, 2012

                  completely unmarked.

                • koolaide

                   /  June 15, 2012

                  Also, Milner was just extra stupid for going to ground there to give up the foul. Ridiculously stupid.

              • Bob Jones' Neighbor

                 /  June 15, 2012

                So, Olaf Mellberg 2-1 England.

                • koolaide

                   /  June 15, 2012

                  Dang, Theo.

                    • koolaide

                       /  June 15, 2012

                      Is this where we have the “intentional or accidental” debate? Not that it matters whether Welbeck meant to put the ball in the net like that.

                    • That was a good ‘un. England still mostly looks like England, but at least they managed to finish their chances. And I like Welbeck’s wikipedia picture, he looks like he’s about 15 years old.

                    • koolaide

                       /  June 15, 2012

                      re: Welbeck’s wikipeadia pic hahaha. 15 and wearing a black & red plaid (or checked?) sweater.

                • Bob Jones' Neighbor

                   /  June 15, 2012

                  In the net is in the net. Ugly or no, Sweden 2-3 England. So far. And this was meant as a reply to Koolaide, but WP evidently won’t let it get that narrow.

                  • koolaide

                     /  June 15, 2012

                    I know it doesn’t matter how the ball gets in the net as long as it gets in there. Maybe he did mean to do what he did. Either way, France & England are on top of the group and Sweden is not.

    • Andy Carroll can head the shit out of a ball.

    • koolaide

       /  June 15, 2012

      Ballack >> Lalas in the studio commentating. But it isn’t hard to be better at that than Blabber Lalas. Trying to decide whether or not I like what Kasey brings to the studio. Lalas hasn’t been quite as annoying today so maybe Kasey is kicking him under the table?

    • ENGLAND ENGLAND RAH RAH RAH.
      etc.

      • Can I just say how tickled I am that this conversation is being held on my very own blog? Because I am very, very tickled. And pleased.

  17. dmf

     /  June 15, 2012

    Itinerary
    Adrienne Rich
    i.
    Burnt by lightning nevertheless
    she’ll walk this terra infinita
    lashes singed on her third eye
    searching definite shadows for an indefinite future
    Old shed-boards beaten silvery hang
    askew as sheltering
    some delicate indefensible existence
    Long grasses shiver in a vanished doorway’s draft
    a place of origins as yet unclosured and unclaimed
    Writing cursive instructions on abounding air
    If you arrive with ripe pears, bring a sharpened knife
    Bring cyanide with the honeycomb
    call before you come
    ii.
    Let the face of the bay be violet black the tumbled torn
    kelp necklaces strewn alongshore
    Stealthily over time arrives the chokehold
    stifling ocean’s guttural chorales
    a tangle
    of tattered plastic rags
    iii.
    In a physical world the great poverty would be
    to live insensate shuttered against the fresh
    slash of urine on a wall
    low-tidal rumor of a river’s yellowed mouth
    a tumor-ridden face asleep on a subway train
    What would it mean to not possess
    a permeable skin
    explicit veil to wander in
    iv.
    A cracked shell crumbles.
    Sun moon and salt dissect the faint
    last grains
    An electrical impulse zings
    out ricochets
    in meta-galactic orbits
    a streak of nervous energy rejoins the crucible
    where origins and endings meld
    There was this honey-laden question mark
    this thread extracted from the open
    throat of existence—Lick it clean!
    —let it evaporate—

  18. Ian

     /  June 15, 2012

  19. corkingiron

     /  June 15, 2012

    British Columbia Supreme Court just struck down the Criminal Code provisions prohibiting Physician-assisted suicide. I think this is a good thing. I wonder what the Supreme Court of Canada will think?

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/bc-supreme-court-strikes-down-ban-on-physician-assisted-suicide/article4267631/

    • If it passes muster with the Canadian Supreme Court, the next pertinent question is whether Canadian doctors can treat American patients. Because for every one of you, there’s nine of us, saddled, for the most part, with medical Calvinism.

  20. Sorn

     /  June 15, 2012

    poping in 15 minutes before I go to work to say that I just bought Joe Howard’s book about Louis Riel and the Metis uprising. It’s really good, even though it’s five, maybe six, decades old at this point, and is still, from an American perspective, one of the only books that deals with its subject matter. Also, hoping to find a copy of Reconstruction this weekend.

    • Captain Button

       /  June 15, 2012

      I’d only ever heard of it because it came up in an alternate history science fiction novel.

    • corkingiron

       /  June 15, 2012

      Sorn. George Woodcock’s biography of Gabriel Dumont! You’ve been warned.

  21. For everybody here but mostly for KCox (and hoping the video embeds, b/c it’s Vimeo & I’m not sure it will) – Jay Smooth fucking brings it in his latest video, “All these sexist gamer dudes are some shook ones”

    Ill Doctrine: All These Sexist Gamer Dudes Are Some Shook Ones from ANIMALNewYork.com on Vimeo.

    DANG IT. Well, anyway, click on the link, people! It’s golden!

    • Yes! I have seen it (making the rounds all day) and Mr Smooth is, as always, the very soul of wisdom.

      • A national treasure, I tell you. I love his moments of “GAH!” almost as much as I love his erudition.

  22. efgoldman

     /  June 15, 2012

    Apropos of absolutely nothing (and I’m not going to watch it.
    tonight on tcm: triple bill of Gojira, Rodan and Mothra

  23. dmf

     /  June 15, 2012

    interesting follow up to ee’s post on hollywood, writers, and entertaining ourselves to death:
    http://ttbook.org/book/schamus-focus-hollywood

  24. sterlinglikesilver

     /  June 15, 2012

    This is way out of place, but another vote for Slings and Arrows! And I loved “The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms” but not the second book. Am looking forward to the third book; it’s out but I have not read it.

    • caoil

       /  June 15, 2012

      Was the second book a specific problem, or just suffering from being the in-between book?
      (I decided to hold off until I have finished some of the current tomes I have due this month)

      And the library only had s.2 of Slings & Arrows, so I’ll have to put a hold on s.3, maybe for next weekend. I was hoping to marathon it all but not this time, I guess!

  25. dmf

     /  June 15, 2012

    seen playing on pbs:
    http://www.cityofborders.com/

  26. Because I am a strange, strange nerd, I put out a series of tweets this afternoon comparing members of the Wu-Tang Clan to scotch whisky distilleries:

    https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23ScotchHop

    And to cap it off, 2Pac is Port Ellen, because they both have extremely dedicated fan bases and keep putting out new material long after their respective deaths.

  27. Two thoughts:

    1) for those still playing Star Wars: The Old Republic, they are starting to contract the number of servers down, and I see Namadii Corridor is doomed to fall. If we want to keep up the guild for the Lost Battalion we need to figure out which server to transfer our characters.

    2) To everyone going to tomorrow Horde gathering in DC, sorry I can’t make the trip up right now but I wish you all enjoy your time tomorrow and that another one I can attend is available soon!