The Golden Horde Would Not Be Silenced – an open thread.

The chittering, the chattering, the fun, the frolic. It’s open!

Standard FYI clause: My rule of thumb is that I wait for 2 hours after Ta-Nehisi would usually open a thread (roughly noon, EST), and if none is forthcoming, I put one up here.

203 Comments

  1. Captain Button

     /  May 16, 2012

    The People, united,
    will never be ignited!

    • JHarper2

       /  May 16, 2012

      Oh for a Like Button!

      • JHarper2

         /  May 16, 2012

        Oh Huzza! I was able to log in and leave a comment without being repressed by the WordPress Elves!

        • caoil

           /  May 16, 2012

          You know, I’m really starting to wonder if there is some sort of Elf Uprising happening right under our noses, with all their monkeying about in commenting sections.

          • JHarper2

             /  May 16, 2012

            That would explain the chittering and chattering and other noises in the walls!
            Elves! Keep your hands off the comfy couch, Please.

          • SPEW FOREVER MAN!

        • efgoldman

           /  May 16, 2012

          I think the elves don’t understand Canadian spelling, eh?

        • I think it’s ’cause you spelled your own email address right.

          This time.

          /clears throat

    • baiskeli

       /  May 16, 2012

      The People, united,
      will never be ignited!

      unless they are blighted
      By a gasoline spraying helicopter uninvited.
      followed by a match alighted

      • stephen matlock

         /  May 16, 2012

        That day job you have?

        Treasure it.

        • baiskeli

           /  May 16, 2012

          Ouch!

          • stephen matlock

             /  May 16, 2012

            All in good clean fun. Plus, if you can feel something, it’s a sign you’re getting better. YOU DID GO TO THE DOCTOR, right?

            • baiskeli

               /  May 16, 2012

              Ummm, no, but it seemed to be a simple cold.

              I’m all better and back on my bike (minor sniffles, no chest issues). My co-worker had a simple cold that then got turned into walking pneumonia, so I just had the cold.

              Also my wife made me a kick-ass chicken soup on Monday that kicked the colds behind.

              • stephen matlock

                 /  May 16, 2012

                Well, ok then. (But I’m still gonna keep track of this & if you get sick again my I TOLD YOU SO will be quite loud.)

                Greek chicken soup is kick-ass. Avgolemeno for you, or just plain?

                • baiskeli

                   /  May 16, 2012

                  Just plain (though she adds lemon juice). For some reason chicken soup works great for colds (I wonder if there have been scientific studies about this).

                  • stephen matlock

                     /  May 16, 2012

                    Now you’re just toying with us.

                    THIS IS FROM BOSTON:
                    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117888&page=1#.T7QcZ8WAq2I

                    “In the lab, Rennard tested the ability of those white blood cells to migrate from one side of a chamber across a filter to the other side, as they normally do. In the presence of the chicken soup, however, he noted that fewer cells migrated to the other side of the chamber.

                    His theory is that some ingredient in the soup blocks or slows the amount of cells congregating in the lung area, possibly relieving the development of these cold symptoms.”

                    See, right there. POSSIBLY RELIEVING.

                    That’s science for you.

                    • baiskeli

                       /  May 16, 2012

                      Ok, that is pretty cool!!

                      Funny how a lot of things that we consider old wives tales end up being backed by science.

        • STILL no like button?! What thee HELL is wrong with this blog?

  2. Help help I’m being repressed. Come see the violence inherent in the system!

    • Captain Button

       /  May 16, 2012

      Bloody Peasant!

    • Supreme executive power derives from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!

    • caoil

       /  May 16, 2012

      I’ll just leave this Python/LOTR crossover here for the one person left in the world who hasn’t seen it.

      • koolaide

         /  May 16, 2012

        one person left in the world who hasn’t seen it

        That would be me.

        • caoil

           /  May 16, 2012

          Yay! I found someone! I was pointed to it ages ago, back when he’d probably only finished FOTR. Nowadays I generally assume people have already seen anything I’m trying to share…

          • koolaide

             /  May 16, 2012

            When in doubt, I am probably The Person that hasn’t seen some fun link or The Person who hasn’t heard of some meme or whatnot. I live very close to a cave. A cave w/o cable tv. and I tend to follow a limited path on the intertubes.

            • helensprogeny

               /  May 16, 2012

              You have just described my very life in relation to popular culture. You are not alone in your cave.

              • caoil

                 /  May 16, 2012

                Well, then, I shall feel comforted by the fact that if I manage to find something & share it on FB, it will be new(ish) for you!🙂

                • helensprogeny

                   /  May 16, 2012

                  Oh, yes, almost always. Though I join you in your recent one-fingered salute to network execs over the cancellation of “Awake”, which I’ve managed to watch.

                  • David L

                     /  May 16, 2012

                    I would like to do this over the cancellation of The Finder. Both because it was a pretty entertaining show and because I enjoy ogling Geoff Stults for an hour a week.

                    • helensprogeny

                       /  May 16, 2012

                      Ogling Jason Isaacs is mostly why I’ve watched Awake. So I sympathize wholeheartedly.

              • aaron singer

                 /  May 16, 2012

                Plato came out of the cave, took one look, saw Basketball Wives, and went back into the cave?

                • helensprogeny

                   /  May 16, 2012

                  Fortunately, my life in said cave has, until this tragic moment, shielded me from knowledge of the very existence of Basketball Wives.

        • Bob Jones' Neighbor

           /  May 16, 2012

          Actually, there were two of us. I quit paying close attention to LOTR afteer I read the the books in the ’60s. Too bad. Apparently missed some decent parodies.

          • aaron singer

             /  May 16, 2012

            I have neither read nor seen LOTR.

            I do want to tackle that ring cycle someday, but first I want to take on Wagner’s.

        • corkingiron

           /  May 16, 2012

          Two people…..

      • Wow…it’s so….web 1.0.

        • cofax

           /  May 16, 2012

          I know, I couldn’t get past the first page. It gave me Geocities flashbacks. ::twitches::

          • caoil

             /  May 16, 2012

            There are pdf versions, if that helps…

      • efgoldman

         /  May 16, 2012

        There are apparently two of us.

  3. Captain Button

     /  May 16, 2012

    The chittering, the chattering, the fun, the frolic. It’s open!

    Would that be unearthly chittering from beyond the realms of Euclidian space?

    • Yeah, just hit the walls a couple of times, they usually settle down after that.

    • Um.

      Yes?

    • aaron singer

       /  May 16, 2012

      Oy, you just reminded me of the class I took in college on non-Euclidean geometry.

  4. We left 1000+ comments yesterday on TNC’s place. Can we dare break that number here today?!

    Also, I blogged at my place for the second time in two days. Might be starting a trend.

    • A TREND A TREND A PAULINE TREND.

      That’s most excellent! Keep writing. You’re good at it, you know.

    • WOOT!

    • kateislate

       /  May 16, 2012

      Dude! I went to the doctor and they gave me drugs! So thank you for telling me to do that.

    • koolaide

       /  May 16, 2012

      1000+ comments
      I saw that this AM when I went to see if our beloved host had made a morning post. Craziness.

    • caoil

       /  May 16, 2012

      That thread took me hours to read when I got home. So…maybe not every day? Especially not on Fridays. I’m already backlogged keeping up with another open thread that day.

    • taylor16

       /  May 16, 2012

      Yay! I will read them and leave comments in two weeks, when I finally clear out the 300 POSTS that are currently occupying my RSS reader. Ughh.

      My job and TNC’s/here really cuts into the rest of my internet reading time.

      • carlos the dwarf

         /  May 16, 2012

        I’ve got 187 posts, some of which are a week old. I thought I was the only one who felt so perpetually behind.

        • mythopoeia

           /  May 16, 2012

          This is why I don’t use an RSS reader in the first place. It would be one more thing to compulsively feel I had to keep up with.

      • You never said what you thought of the ending of the voice!!

        Personally, i was glad it was over, and sad it was coming back in the fall.

        • taylor16

           /  May 16, 2012

          I was basically unenthused by the four finalists, so I did watch it but didn’t have much to say about the finale. I thought Jermaine was okay, but kind of scream-y. Of the four finalists, I liked Juliette the best, but knew she wouldn’t win. I … I don’t know.

          This was my first season watching it, so I actually was sort of happy to see it come back. I’d like to watch another season and see how my impressions of this year color how I watch it next year.

          I will say – at one point during the season, I watched a random episode of Idol just after watching the Voice, and could not get over how much less interested I was in Idol. The contestants (that I saw, anyway) were so young that I found it sort of off-putting, and I thought the performances were terrible in comparison. (This was near the end of the Voice).

          I think I am a bad “music reality TV” fan. “Screw the amateurs chasing their dreams … show me the semi-pro singers in the staged competition!!”🙂

    • chingona

       /  May 16, 2012

      Zombie Peace Conference? Why, it’s so crazy, it just might work!

      • Captain Button

         /  May 16, 2012

        I really have to type up that zombie rights speech from Robert Sheckley’s Immortality Incorporated one of these days. So I can post it in threads like this, as a responsible Necro-American.

      • Of course, technically, Sharon is alive. In a coma is still alive. Just not much given to being able to govern. Or negotiate. Or make news. Etc.

        • chingona

           /  May 16, 2012

          I know that. It was kind of metaphorical. Or something. I think they would be on about equal footing in terms of their ability to govern, negotiate, etc.

          • I knew you knew. I just – had to say. Cause I’m me. Carry on! : )

            • chingona

               /  May 16, 2012

              Well, my comment could be interpreted as thinking he was dead. I just wanted you to know that I knew. Carry on.

        • aaron singer

           /  May 16, 2012

          I had no idea he was still alive.

          • And look, Aaron didn’t know!

            So yeah. Sharon: NOT DEAD. Only nearly so.

            • caoil

               /  May 16, 2012

              This made me chuckle. A message board I go to regularly has to use that technique in certain threads if someone has created a new one about a well-known or very-loved famous person – the name of the thread will have to include “NOT DEAD” so that commenters don’t panic on seeing the name.

              • Captain Button

                 /  May 16, 2012

                Messenger 3: My Lord, news…

                Blackadder:

                Messenger 3: My Lord, news…

                King: What?

                Messenger 3: Lord Wessex is dead.

                King: Ah. This news is not so good.

                Messenger 3: Pardon, My Lord?

                King: I like it not. Bring me some other news.

                Messenger 3: Pardon, My Lord?

                King: I LIKE NOT THIS NEWS! BRING ME SOME OTHER NEWS!!!

                Messenger 3: Yes, My Lord!

                Messenger 4 (actually Messenger 3, coming in again): My Lord, news…

                King: What?

                Messenger 4: Lord Wessex is not dead.

                King: Ah, good news! Let there be joy and celebration; let jubilation reign!

                Bad News in a Good Way

              • aaron singer

                 /  May 16, 2012

                Reminds me of the joke in my family when we’re not sure if a celebrity is alive or dead and we learn they are deceased—“Still?”

                • mythopoeia

                   /  May 16, 2012

                  Ha! Do you have an equivalent joke for “Woah, so-and-so is actually still alive!”

                  • aaron singer

                     /  May 16, 2012

                    Sort of. “Wow, Nightline sucks now.” “Ted Koppel must be rolling over in his grave.” “He’s dead?” “No.”

            • I thought that was Abe Vigoda.

    • Captain Button

       /  May 16, 2012

      Obligatory snark: Would they do any worse than what we have now?

      • Well now, you make an excellent point.

      • chingona

         /  May 16, 2012

        I have a friend who’s a reporter, mostly in the West Bank, and it’s a big joke around the office that every article has to include a paragraph, fairly high up, about how such-and-such a development “threatens to derail the peace process.” This is supposed to show American readers the relevance of whatever the new development is, but leaves the mistaken impression that there is a peace process.

      • helensprogeny

         /  May 16, 2012

        This was my first thought. We’ve tried just about everything else, why not?

    • aaron singer

       /  May 16, 2012

      “Neither Arafat nor Sharon were available for comment.”
      My favorite part of that story.

      • JHarper2

         /  May 16, 2012

        Mine too! And they buried right at the bottom of the story!

    • JHarper2

       /  May 16, 2012

      The congressman was named Dumb Congressman of the Week, a non-coveted award, and yet one for which there is always lots of competition!

    • efgoldman

       /  May 16, 2012

      as the kiddos say…

      O.

      M.

      F.

      G.

      • efgoldman

         /  May 16, 2012

        And the worst part? I have no idea his re-election prospects, but this won’t effect a half-dozen votes one way or another.

  5. helensprogeny

     /  May 16, 2012

    I was late with this yesterday and it got buried under the onslaught, so here again:

    AHOY, TUCSON AND SOUTHERN AZ HORDE:

    Esteemed Midwestern Horde member WM Rine will be in our fair city on Sunday (May 20) around midday and we are aiming to meet up. Location has not yet been determined, so if you’d like to join in and have a location you’d like to meet at, by all means make your voice heard. Lurkers and assorted Horde family members/spouses/partners/SO/etc. all are welcome! Feel free to connect with me at helensprogeny@yahoo dot com.

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  May 16, 2012

      Argh! Working!

      Will see if I can call in a favor and trade the opening. Thank you for the notice and advance warning.

      • helensprogeny

         /  May 16, 2012

        Fingers crossed for your liberation from work! I’d like to meet you – speaking in a non-creepy, entirely Horde-curious and benevolent way. Hope you can make it! 🙂

  6. PS My doctor gave me Ambien yesterday.

    I LOVE MY DOCTOR SO MUCH.

    • Be careful with that stuff, hon, I was on it for years. It’s not good for long term use.

      • No plan for long term (that makes me nervous, too, believe you me!) – it’s two weeks on, two weeks of every other day, and two weeks of if-I-need-it. And then we talk.

        I just really, really need to sleep a bit. It’s been months of peri-menopausal madness, and while my naturopath and I are on the right track (that is: It used to be even worse) I’m just so bone-deep exhausted at this point that I’m taking a bit of a sleep vacation. Then we’ll go back to chipping away at it….

        • dmf

           /  May 16, 2012

          just tried it this week but it is apparently only really designed to help you get to sleep and not to stay asleep so my REM quest continues, hope it serves you better

        • wearyvoter

           /  May 16, 2012

          My condolences on the perimenopause. I’m still waiting for mine to completely pause. Had to restart the countdown in mid-November. I just need 1 year in between what used to happen every 28 days, and I will be joyfully, happily, done, done, done with this. (After 7 years of hot flashes, the flashes are even getting farther/further/whatever apart.)

          • caoil

             /  May 16, 2012

            joyfully, happily, done, done, done with this
            I am absolutely having a menopause party when the day arrives. Consider yourselves all invited. Haven’t completely planned it out yet but ideas gratefully accepted.

          • taylor16

             /  May 16, 2012

            I am utterly terrified of menopause, solely because of hot flashes.

            I am already constantly warm, to the point where I rarely wear coats in the dead of winter and where I will start sweating profusely from the face if I just *walk* somewhere. I crack my office window in the winter because my (perfectly normally heated) office is too hot for me.

            I’m a ridiculous ball of sweat, and I cannot even imagine how horrifying menopause is going to be for me.

      • Also, be it known that I❤ people who call me "hon." : )

    • stephen matlock

       /  May 16, 2012

      Did I tell you about my Ambien-induced hallucination in the Seattle airport? I have never taken recreational drugs (outside of ethyl alcohol). So maybe I had no way to gauge this: but after taking perhaps a little too many Ambiens on the 12 hour flight/trip back from Luxembourg, I experienced what I can only say as something I to this day cannot figure out if it really happened or if it was the drugs. I became convinced that a Chinese secret agent attempted to recruit me in the waiting lounge. She was wearing a red beret, a black two-piece outfit (in a very chic style) with a black-and-white checked scarf. Bobbed hair, cut almost page-boy style. She handed me a USB stick with secret information on it and attempt to have me smuggle it into the US where I could hand it off to the next person in the chain.

      By Thursday of that week (this was a Saturday) I had finally shaken it off, but I have vivid memories of Luxembourg & Amsterdam airports, the meals I ate and the things I bought, and the people I talked to. She is as vivid as everything else. But it can’t possibly be true.

      Oh, and I ended up making several strange purchases on my computer while waiting in the Amsterdam airport. I got packages in the mail from Amazon that, when I opened them, thought “WTF?” All made that day in the airport.

      So: be wary.

      I’ve since sworn off all sleep drugs. Too scary.

      For short-term use, it’s perfectly fine, I think. For long-term use — talk to your doctor. And don’t take too many or you might find yourself walking around downtown Chicago wondering why you decided to shampoo your hair with toothpaste & not rinse it out, and also wondering why you are wandering around downtown Chicago looking like that. (True story for a friend of mine, by the way.)

      • aaron singer

         /  May 16, 2012

        …But did you ever check to see if there was anything on that USB stick?😉

  7. No recaps today. Instead–a list of the top ten Idol performances of all time, a GoT trailer, the best Glee song from last night, and “Are You Cat Mom Enough?”
    http://anibundel.wordpress.com/

    • caoil

       /  May 16, 2012

      That Cat Mom thing is awesome.
      (note: here is where I admit I’ve been trying to design a sling for carrying orphaned kittens, in case the shelter has any arrive this season)

  8. chingona

     /  May 16, 2012

    It finally happened. The words “If someone told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?” left my mouth this morning. Fortunately, I have yet to say, “Don’t make me stop this car,” but that’s more dad territory, I think.

    • “Because I’m your mother.”

      I finally just gave in to it, because you know what? That often is the reason. AND IT’S A GOOD ONE.

      • “Because the social mores of our day require this to be the ways things are.”

        I still use this one on my sister. It works.

        • enstar

           /  May 16, 2012

          don’t you mean the “social morays of our day”?

          • David L

             /  May 16, 2012

            When an eel hits your eye, like a big pizza pie….

            • koolaide

               /  May 16, 2012

              and now I want pizza for dinner…

            • snailspace

               /  May 16, 2012

              The version I learned was “When you swim in the sea, and an eel bites your knee, that’s a moray…”

        • chingona

           /  May 16, 2012

          Like, “the social mores of our day require that you don’t pee on the wood chips in the middle of the playground at school. Even if D. told you to do it. If D. told you to jump off a bridge …”

          Not that that’s what happened. Just … as a hypothetical example.

    • efgoldman

       /  May 16, 2012

      “When you make a fight with Mama, who wins?”
      “Mama”
      “So…”

    • neighbors73

       /  May 16, 2012

      Because I said so.

      Every time I say it, it makes me mad to hear my mother’s words coming out of my mouth.

  9. dmf

     /  May 16, 2012

  10. dmf

     /  May 16, 2012

    co-creator of the Daily Show:
    http://onpoint.wbur.org/2012/05/16/lizz-winstead

  11. cofax

     /  May 16, 2012

    US Department of Justice points out that citizen filming of police officers in the performance of their duty is protected by the First Amendment. I am pleasantly surprised.

    • koolaide

       /  May 16, 2012

      Good for them. Aren’t there several states w/ laws against such filming?

      • aaron singer

         /  May 16, 2012

        Illinois has such a law, but it has been struck down in state and federal court, and local police officers say they will not enforce it–we’ll see how true that is this weekend with NATO.

    • What a concept.

    • dmf

       /  May 16, 2012

      yes but what will the courts say?

      • cofax

         /  May 16, 2012

        It’d be very weird if the Supremes ended up constraining the First Amendment more than a law enforcement agency would.

        … although with this court, it’s anyone’s guess what’d happen. The conflict between LE & the unfettered First Amendment might make Scalia’s head explode, which would (I admit) be fun to observe.

        … from a safe distance.

    • helensprogeny

       /  May 16, 2012

      Totally. Fucking. Awesome. And about damned time, too.

    • chingona

       /  May 16, 2012

      Very good news. I have been very disturbed by the proliferation of laws – some with very harsh penalties – banning the practice.

  12. koolaide

     /  May 16, 2012

    In NC anti-marriage equity continuing news, once again media & conventional “wisdom” are wrong about African-Americans (religious or otherwise) were the reason for the amendment passing. The divide was urban vs rural and not white/black. We’re smart people here and prolly knew that b/c we do nuance. But if you need more ammo in your various “black people aren’t more homophobic than white people” online arguments…

    • koolaide

       /  May 16, 2012

      In each of North Carolina’s five largest cities, voters in majority-black precincts rejected the measure: Charlotte (52 percent), Raleigh (51 percent), Greensboro (54 percent), Winston-Salem (55 percent), and Durham (65 percent). Durham’s results were dramatic: Not a single majority-black precinct supported the amendment. Several crushed it by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.

      and

      Yes, even rural North Carolina had islands of resistance. The amendment failed 2-to-1 on the African-American side of Scotland Neck, a village that has witnessed forty years of civil-rights struggles stretching from a landmark school-desegregation case in the 1970s to the recent stun-gun death of a black bicyclist. The result, says former Mayor James Mills, is an “organized and sophisticated” black electorate. “We were able to communicate was that this really had nothing to do with same-sex marriage,” he says. “What this has to do with is hate.” The measure also failed, albeit narrowly, in a black precinct of nearby Warren County, where in the 1980s hundreds were arrested during protests against a PCB landfill that sparked some of the earliest discussions about environmental racism.

  13. Since the other thread’s been closed, let me hasten to say that my calling TNC an alien was a failed attempt to be both funny and complimentary. Apologies for not being clear.

  14. cofax

     /  May 16, 2012

    In other news, I spent much of yesterday inhabiting the comment threads on John Scalzi’s post about relative difficulty settings, which became after a while rather a stew of misogyny and Ayn-Rand-esque “I got mine!” Bleah.

    • caoil

       /  May 16, 2012

      You are a braver soul than I. I saw his post, and gave a little cheer, and then saw 800+ comments and just could not handle drowning under all the but-I’m-a-special-snowflake statements.

  15. carlos the dwarf

     /  May 16, 2012

    So I’m leaving for DC on Saturday, in what I intend to be a permanent move. [The only way I’m moving back here is if I run out of money.] Yet somehow everyone around here is in denial. My current boss is convinced that I’m coming back in two weeks. My parents are buying tickets for theater performances in July which I’m expected to be around for. It would be funny if it wasn’t sad.

    • Denial is not just a river in Egypt, you know.

      • aaron singer

         /  May 16, 2012

        The Potomac is just a river in Maryland and DC*, though.😉

        *And Virginia, barely.

  16. I did some work at work. Can I have a cookie now?

    • koolaide

       /  May 16, 2012

      Chocolate chip or peanutbutter?

      • ICE CREAM SANDWICH COOKIE.

        (Yesterday I got home and I could here the ice cream truck trolling the cul de sacs, and yet somehow, he never came to ours. It was tragic.)

        • koolaide

           /  May 16, 2012

          ooh. such a tasty choice. I wish I had one of those…

          • I was thwarted. 7-11 had no ice cream cookies.

            I settled for an ice cream twix bar.

            • chingona

               /  May 16, 2012

              So you’re back on the sugar?

              • it was a reward. if you’d seen the excel spread sheet i dealt with all day, you’d require an ice cream treat too.

                • chingona

                   /  May 16, 2012

                  Heh. I require an ice cream treat even when I haven’t done a spread sheet.

                  • caoil

                     /  May 16, 2012

                    I came thisclose to having a Blizzard again at lunch today. But there was a long lineup. Second option was a Purdy’s ice cream bar, but again, too many people. I’ll have to have something later to assauge the craving.

    • efgoldman

       /  May 16, 2012

      I’m actually getting a surprising amount of work done in four hours of work a day.
      It wouldn’t have anything at all to do with the fact that disqus is blocked.
      No,
      Never.

  17. David L

     /  May 16, 2012

    I just noticed that my good earbuds are not on my desk. Nor are they on the floor around my desk. Considering how very conscientious I try to be about not taking them with me, my assumption is that they were knocked into the trash, mistaken for trash, or stolen.

    I’m pretty annoyed because they’re not cheap, but then I’m annoyed that I’m annoyed because replacements are easy to find and not really all that expensive (less than a tank of gas.)

    Also, the landscapers are here and the crappy Apple-made earbuds I got are not good enough at blocking out the outside world on a day when I’m transcribing things from hand-written notes to electronic text, which requires a lot of focus for me because I’m an auditory thinker.

  18. taylor16

     /  May 16, 2012

    After day two of interviewing candidates for 1.5 open positions, we are only seriously considering 2 of the 10 candidates. The rest were … not good. We’ll see how the last 5 interviews go, but the record so far has not been terrific.

    However, the two candidates we’re definitely interested in are both a bit “older” (40s to mid 50s) and have both been unemployed for 2+ years. So part of me is hoping that the final five also turn out to be duds, so we can get some people back in the workforce who might not be viewed as ideal candidates for other positions.

    I’m such a bleeding heart librul.

    • helensprogeny

       /  May 16, 2012

      No, just an intelligent and compassionate human being. Good luck with the interviewing.

    • We are interviewing for the first of two positions. The first one arrived in jeans and proceeded to get changed in the bathroom and then leave her street clothes in the bathroom while she interviewed.
      The second didn’t speak english, so if you asked her a question she hadn’t rehearsed the answer to beforehand, she couldn’t answer it, or even comprehend what you were asking.
      Three more on Friday. One of which i have a good feeling about.

      Then we start all over again with the second position.

      • taylor16

         /  May 16, 2012

        See, we’re doing two-for-one with this round of interviews. One full-timer, and one part-timer that will switch to full time in about 90 days unless our company collapses in the meantime.

        Then we get to hire again in August. But we’re trying to minimize the horror for now…

        • Well, one we knew we were hiring since the beginning of the year, since the person in that position was fired.
          The other…the woman currently in that position is six months along with her first and decided she’s only coming back part time after maternity leave. So suddenly we were hiring for two.

    • SWNC

       /  May 16, 2012

      This may be mean, but do you have any deliciously awful interview stories to share?

      • taylor16

         /  May 16, 2012

        Oh, just the normal range of oddballs. It’s an entry level job that doesn’t really request any specific type of background … we’ve had better luck hiring people from diverse backgrounds and then training them than finding people with years and years of experience in our field.

        So while that nets us some awesome recent grads and middle-aged people looking for a career change, it also brings out the oddballs. One lady kept reciting the grades she’d gotten in each of her college courses, and told us more about her husband than she told us about herself (including that she was only applying to medical jobs because her husband had told her she should).

        And another person told us that she’d been let go from her last job because she couldn’t stop falling asleep at her job. Note: this was not in response to a question about whether she’d ever been fired.

        Interviewing is so weird.

        • aaron singer

           /  May 16, 2012

          And yet I’ve been on a couple dozen interviews since last summer with nary a job offer. Le sigh.

          • carlosthedwarf

             /  May 16, 2012

            Yeah, I think of myself as a bad interviewer for precisely this reason, but then I hear stories like these and I think I can’t be that bad.

    • efgoldman

       /  May 16, 2012

      Go for the old guys.
      We’re so very grateful.
      In oh, so very many ways.

      (Sersly, I temped in to my current company in 1996, approaching my 50th birthday.)

    • Byrk

       /  May 16, 2012

      I’m going to second the going for older employees. Considering that most people don’t work a job for more than 10 years, there’s a good of chance of them sticking around as others. Our last two hires were for entry level type positions and one guy had a lot of experience and the other had no related experience. Both had been out of work, for a significant period of time before hiring. The one with no related experience was fully aware he was starting his career over, and I’m glad I pushed to have him hired since he’s working out.

      I’m fairly young, and I remember one of the older members of our staff telling me to never discount somebody who’s overqualified. He told me “What, you think he’ll do too good of a job” It’s something that’s served me well the last couple of years and yes the people we’ve hired are the most grateful at our company to have a job.

  19. carlos the dwarf

     /  May 16, 2012

    Today in facebook status updates from people I went to high school with:

    “Was about to sign a lease for an apartment by myself until weird orbs started appearing all around the living room. Come to find out orbs signify “wandering spirits”. Needless to say… I will not be living there.”

    Anyone want to unpack this for me? Is this person claiming to have ESP?

    • David L

       /  May 16, 2012

      I’ve heard the “orbs” thing before in relation to still pictures. Most of the time, it looks to me like a speck of dust that caught the flash and was close enough to the lens to be out of focus, producing a fuzzy, generally circular bright spot on the image.

    • So they saw stars from stress and decided it was a bad sign?

      • carlos the dwarf

         /  May 16, 2012

        I mean, this person does work two jobs, so it’s entirely possible that’s what happened.

    • helensprogeny

       /  May 16, 2012

      I’m gonna go with hallucinations.

  20. JHarper2

     /  May 16, 2012

    Leonard Cohen is awesome. Just saying. On Monday, the Glenn Gould Foundation, named for the famed pianist awarded Cohen the Glenn Gould prize and the $50,000 that accompanies it. Cohen accepted the prize and turned the cheque over to the Canada Council for the Arts. A few years ago Cohen was bankrupt, his manager having embezzled his savings. He has been touring like a demon every since. I am sure he can afford it now, but still it was a cheque for $50,000.00. He also told the performers and musicians about to play at the gala if there is any anxiety about performing in front of me, please let it dissolve completely. I go into bouts of childlike ecstasy … when I hear anyone cover my songs.
    If this post inspires anyone to post a favourite Cohen composition, please let it not be Hallelujah.

    • carlos the dwarf

       /  May 16, 2012

      Jeff Buckley did it better.

      • David L

         /  May 16, 2012

        Buckley changed the lyrics enough that I consider it to practically be a different song. I read someone’s great analysis of how most of the covers since that one have been Buckley covers more than Cohen covers.

        Of the two versions, I think I prefer Cohen’s, but Buckley’s is good when I need to wallow for a moment, or I need to bring myself down for something I’m writing.

        I’m reminded of how, some time around Valentine’s day this year, a music host on the local NPR station (John Aielli, for those of you who are familiar with him) made a comment that they would be devoting the February 14th show to “love, lust, and whatever the hell it is that Leonard Cohen sings about.”

        • dave in texas

           /  May 16, 2012

          Love John Aielli.

        • chingona

           /  May 16, 2012

          I had heard the Jeff Buckley version many, many times before I heard the Leonard Cohen version, so even though Cohen did the original, it’s always sounded “off” to me. I think of it as Buckley’s song. Which is fine. “Hang on to your Ego” is a Pixies song, even though the Beach Boys did it first.

    • Simon Cowell never misses an opportunity to inflict Hallelujah on the masses. Usually sung by someone who hasn’t given two braincells over to the meaning of the verses, merely seeing them as obstacles to rush through to get to the sweeping chorus.

      • JHarper2

         /  May 16, 2012

        And not really a song for funerals, you know, if you listen to the words.

        • Not really a song about God or religion either. The amazing places I hear this song where it is not appropriate boggles the mind.

          • carlosthedwarf

             /  May 16, 2012

            Jeff Buckley was very honest about it: he claimed it was a song about sex, and the word Hallelujah itself symbolized an orgasm.

            • chingona

               /  May 16, 2012

              I don’t think we needed him to tell us that. It’s pretty plain in the song. Remember when I moved in you and the holy dove was moving too and every breath you drew was Hallelujah?

              • carlosthedwarf

                 /  May 16, 2012

                I was a very innocent kid.

                • chingona

                   /  May 16, 2012

                  In your defense, It’s not a kid’s song. It’s a song for people who have been around the block a time or two. “Maybe there’s a God above, but all I’ve ever learned from love was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you.”

    • baiskeli

       /  May 16, 2012

      Chealsea Hotel No 2 – As covered by Rufus Wainwright
      The Traitor – As covered by Martha Wainwright.

      and

      …..
      Hallelujah – as covered by Brandi Carlisle

      • I’ve always been partial to Jean-Louis Murat’s cover of “Avalanche”

        • baiskeli

           /  May 16, 2012

          Thanks for this. This is beautiful!! I tried searching for the album on itunes but I can’t seem to find it.

  21. enstar

     /  May 16, 2012

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7929602/the-bizarre-case-paige-sultzbach-#8212-all-boys-team-forfeited-championship-rather-play-her

    this is the best piece about the news that has been going around my facebook wall the past week, so i thought i’d post it here. short version: small, arizona high schools (so small or young or new that they are not full members of arizona’s high school athletic association, the aia) are scheduled to play in the baseball playoffs for the charter athletic conference, except one school forfeits the game because there is a girl on the other team, and their school does not condone that sort of fraternization.

    i mentioned this to sara on facebook today, but i’ll share it here: i know the school who has the girl on their team. i have friends who are teachers there. it’s a sister school (in spirit, though not from an official standpoint) to the one i teach at. i know the sort of students who go out for sports there, know the athletic director and some of the coaches, and know that they have done their best not to make a big fuss about being jerked around like this (the girl chose to sit out the two regular season matchups to avoid a problem, and the athletic director graciously called the other school’s policy “a bit 18th century” but “not discriminatory”).

    but the reality is, that the our lady of sorrows private school should be ashamed of themselves. mesa prep is a school of amazing and wonderful nerdballs, and their sports teams are small and scrappy and more true to the goddamn game than you will ever find anywhere else–and to deny them a chance to play for a league title is decidedly unchristian, no matter how you spin it.

    • carlos the dwarf

       /  May 16, 2012

      Charles Pierce, who wrote that story, is a national fucking treasure.

      • enstar

         /  May 16, 2012

        cosign. i love pierce.

      • koolaide

         /  May 16, 2012

        Agreed.

      • taylor16

         /  May 16, 2012

        Agreed.

        I also just – like, today – realized that he wrote “Idiot America.” Which is an awesome book, for a not-so-serious read.

      • Hell yeah. (Had to say something besides ‘agreed’)

    • taylor16

       /  May 16, 2012

      Agreed.

      I really wish that once the dickhead school had decided not to play, the league officials had said “okay, well we’re still going to have a championship game, so the team you played in the semis gets to play in the finals.”

      I know that’s not exactly kosher with the spirit of tournament play, but screw it. Neither is sitting out a game because one player on the other team doesn’t look the way you think a baseball player should look.

      • enstar

         /  May 16, 2012

        not to deflect attention or ire from its deserved source, but the charter league itself is a bit of a mess. so i doubt this option even crossed their minds.

    • koolaide

       /  May 16, 2012

      I read about that (but not at Grantland…forgetting where). The people I know (or know online) who take pot shots at the RCC are taking them again w/ this story. The whole Rome potentially making nice w/ the SSPX group now doesn’t help others from thinking Rome is marching backwards past Vatican II as quickly as Bene can march…

      • And the RCC presently having a cow because Georgetown asked Kathleen Sibelius to speak at graduation.

    • baiskeli

       /  May 16, 2012

      That was a phenomenal article

    • cofax

       /  May 16, 2012

      Oh, I missed that one. Brilliant.

      I have to admit, I wonder what the boys of the Our Lady of Sorrows baseball team think. Are they proud of themselves for taking a stand “on principle”, and indulging in some good victimology as martyrs for the cause of righteousness? Or are they pissed off at the school officials who took away their opportunity to play for the state championships?

      Stories like this sadden me, because it’s all so alien to my understanding, and caught in some bizarre state of mind that seems trapped in the 13th Century.

      • enstar

         /  May 16, 2012

        i would bet all of my money on the following two things:

        1. about 5% maximum of the boys on the other team would actually, seriously, refuse to play against a girl. i doubt that their baseball team even has 20 people on it, so 5% = 1 person being kind of ambivalent about it, and i’m sure they would be peer pressured into letting it go.

        2. if you interviewed them for an article and asked them, probably 100% would say either that they do have a problem with it, or they agree with their school’s policy. if your parents want something, and your school wants something, you’re damn well gonna fall in line when people ask you to give a public answer.

        seriously, i would bet money that none of the boys would actually care if someone made them play against a girl. they might care about losing to a girl, but that’s a different story.

        • chingona

           /  May 16, 2012

          I actually feel some sympathy for boys who don’t want to wrestle girls (and for girls who want to wrestle and don’t have a girls wrestling team to compete with). Not on this one. It’s hard to think of a team sport that has less contact than baseball.

          • enstar

             /  May 17, 2012

            yeah, contact sports can be a little different, especially at that age. but baseball?

    • Byrk

       /  May 16, 2012

      Did I miss the part where Jesus said “Thou shalt not play baseball against a team with a girl on it, because you’ll totally get cooties” Jesus certainly fraternized with women.

      • neighbors73

         /  May 16, 2012

        Yeah, try telling that to your local priest.

  22. RIP Chuck Brown. Godfather of GoGo, the official music of Real DC.

  23. chingona

     /  May 16, 2012

    So, sometimes we get weird calls at the newspaper, but today has been an especially weird day. We had someone call and ask for a recommendation on a good spring in the area to give birth in. And then we had someone return a phone call and say they were willing to be interviewed, but only if the reporter had already seen “Tree of Life.” (The story has nothing to do with “Tree of Life.”)

    • stephen matlock

       /  May 16, 2012

      You can interview me for free. And I won’t give birth during the interview. I’m so easy.

    • efgoldman

       /  May 16, 2012

      Its not a full moon, is it? And I’ll talk for free, also too, and even let you misquote me/

  24. Rebecca Zicarelli

     /  May 16, 2012

    Today, lunch with my sweetie (out at a dining establishment, too!) conversation on the art of writing as it applies to reporting news. We had some interesting observations, I thought I’d share a few with you. (Disclaimer: I’m a reformed journalist.)

    1. The art of dialogue, of the revealing and informative quote, seems to be vanishing. Something someone said, in quote marks, seems rarer and rarer. I think it’s because they’re difficult to punctuate.

    2. On the someone said; people in the news ‘scoff,’ ‘exclaim,’ ‘grouse,’ they rarely ‘said.’ Writers seem to have forgotten that the quote is (or ought be) active, so even though ‘said,’ (or ‘says’ if writing in present tense) seems boring, other verbs both nuance what’s being said, and detract from it’s action.

    3. It’s become standard to see journalists inserting themselves into the story. This is very distressing to me; I did it twice in my career, and only after long and agonizing soul searching.

    4. Facts are rarely checked; they’re sourced. The essence of ‘verify’ seems to be lost in the rush to report.

    5. Analysis of information fades, displaced by ‘balanced’ he said/she said that fails to reveal anything by the bickering, and does not provide the reader with information to comprehend the facts.

    6. Events are rarely given a context that provides proportion. So the idea that whatever the horror being reported on is unlikely to happen to you gets lost.

  25. efgoldman

     /  May 16, 2012

    OK, I forgot to un-check “notify me… by email”. And I’m getting emails at *two different addresses*, one of which i don’t think I ever told to FYWP.

  26. wearyvoter

     /  May 16, 2012

    More news in the land of bloodwork: Good news, I was a bit mistaken on what constitutes low potassium. (Turns out, it’s not. Whew!) Bad news, apparently my cube-dwelling, daylight shunning, dairy product avoiding ways have left me a tad deficient in vitamin D levels. (Deficient, as in critters who dwell in the depths of Mammoth Cave probably have higher blood levels of this item than I currently do.) Anyway, I have been put on a once a week supplement that I am to swallow for the next 16 weeks. It’s a huge dose of the stuff, but the physical size of pill doesn’t reflect it. (This is good. I was imagining horse pills.) Maybe getting my vitamin D up will help with the asthma crap. We shall see. At the end of 16 weeks, I am to visit the lab for another fun-filled blood draw. Meanwhile, I guess skim milk over oat-based cereals will be coming back into the diet.

  27. koolaide

     /  May 16, 2012

    Don’t know if folks are still around but…

    Anyone know how to fix a box fan? Alternatively, anyone know where a person might learn how to fix a box fan? My box fan (bought last year at a yard sale and it worked for a while) no longer works. I haz sad.