Open Thread for non-ACA matters (and those, too!).

Ta-Nehisi has an epic thread up where folks are discussing the Supreme Court’s ruling on the Affordable Care Act – I thought some might like a smaller venue as well, and/or a place to talk about LOLcats and the EuroCup (as but two examples).

Standard FYI clause: I generally wait for 2 hours after Ta-Nehisi would usually open a thread (roughly noon, EST), and if none is forthcoming, I put one up here.

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  1. My replacement eShakti dress arrived an hour ago – AND IT’S SOOOOO PRETTTTTYYYYY!

    • koolaide

       /  June 28, 2012

      yay for pretty dresses that fit as they are supposed to and in flattering ways :)

      • Also, it bears noting that I returned one with absolutely no issue whatsoever. I don’t remember who brought up the question of customer service, but they’ve been golden with me.

        I’ve even gotten little rebates because their shipping has taken longer than expected.

  2. koolaide

     /  June 28, 2012

    Yay. Somewhere to talk about non-ACA related matters. So, let’s see. Um? Euros?

    Germany vs Italy. Germany seems the most likely victor.

    • Considering they couldn’t score against England when they were obviously the superior team, this is most likely true.

    • My German friends are nervous. They think Italy will win.

      • koolaide

         /  June 28, 2012

        Well, Pirlo is magical. And Buffon is darn good.

        But overtime w/ a day less rest? Maybe if the German players are all scared b/c of the bugaboo. I still say Germany.

      • koolaide

         /  June 28, 2012

        Holy Cow! After two oops moments from Buffon (and a calm clearance off the line from Pirlo), Italy go up via Cassano & Balotelli!!

        • koolaide

           /  June 28, 2012

          Dang. Super Mario, indeed!

        • Oh come the fuck on. What an unbelievable defensive lapse.

          • koolaide

             /  June 28, 2012

            How on earth do they let him get so wide open?

            (I love pretty much all aspects of the ridiculousness that is Balotelli, but w/ two goals and a yellow, what’s the over/under that he gets his 2nd yellow?)

      • Your friends might be right. 2-0?!?

        • koolaide

           /  June 28, 2012

          The German fans have decided to try and sing their players onward after some first half whistling. I think a German goal int he next 10 minutes would make the last part of the game *mighty* interesting. And fun.

    • koolaide

       /  June 28, 2012

      Italy won the anthem singing portion for me. And I found Buffon’s singing intensity as hilarious as Pirlo’s seeming nonchalance (kinda like his cheeky penalty).

      Lahm has great eyebrows (and is tiny) but a team can’t win the anthem singing if not everyone sings.

      • David L

         /  June 28, 2012

        What if it’s one of those anthems where nobody knows the full lyrics? Some comedian — I think it was Billy Connolly — went so far as to have a comedy bit about how nobody knows the words to “Flower of Scotland” except the chorus and when you watch closely, the Scottish national football team is just going “(softly) da-da dum daaa daaa, da-da dada-da-dum, (loudly) AND STOOD AGAINST HIM, PROUD EDWARD’S ARMY…”.

  3. I even posted something on the ACA. because and that’s why.

    also there’s stuff: Bibhu Mohapatra, GOT directors, Dr Who speculation and Viktor and Rolf.

    http://anibundel.wordpress.com/

  4. Bookwoman

     /  June 28, 2012

    For the librarians and book-lovers among us: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/arts/butler-library-at-columbia-is-a-haven-for-body-and-mind.html

    The heat comes quickly in the summer. By early June, working at home with no air-conditioning, I have no concentration. Everything feels close and impolite and loud.

    So I go to Butler Library, on the southern end of Columbia’s campus in Morningside Heights. What began as a diversion has become a self-preserving summer thing: not just Butler, but the Butler stacks, the stillness capital of my imagination.

  5. socioprof

     /  June 28, 2012

    Yay for pretty replacement dresses. Are you available (imagine my saying this in a French accent) for a trip to the local patisserie next week or the week of the 15th?

    • YES. I WILL MAKE IT SO.

      What day?

    • Also, too: I’m tempted to wear one of the dresses. Or both. Do a wardrobe change. Because you will love them. Once the bar mitzvah is behind me, we are going to have to take our husbands out to dinner or sommat just so’s I can wear one of my pretty dresses.

  6. helensprogeny

     /  June 28, 2012

    I just announced this at the FB page because I couldn’t wait: I just found out this morning I’m going to be an aunt again! Yay for nieces and nephews! I only have one nephew at the moment, and I’m so glad he’s going to have a sibling. My brother and SIL are awesome parents and exactly the kind of people who can do the child raising thing well. I’m beyond thrilled they’ve decided to do it again.

    • I tell you what, the Commies in this country are just bursting with good news today!

      YAAAYY for your family!

      • I found out that I’m going to have a new roommate in time for July 1st. This is also a plus, even though I did enjoy having nearly a month and a half of the place to myself.

    • Bookwoman

       /  June 28, 2012

      Lovely news!

    • Sorn

       /  June 28, 2012

      “Yay. Auntie, Auntie can I have a quarter?” (Although I think the price of being an aunt has gone up considerable since I was a kid).

      Congratulations on the second time. My Aunt was almost 10 years older than my mom, In some ways it was like having another grandma.

      • helensprogeny

         /  June 28, 2012

        Yeah, I’m 53, so definitely grandma territory. Which is actually probably good, since I’m the only relative of any kind on our side of the family these kids are gonna know. I’ll be aunt and grandma too.

        Also, the way it has worked out so far with my nephew, I get to do spoiling for both aunt and grandma categories. Which is enormous fun.

    • koolaide

       /  June 28, 2012

      Yay! happy news. good health to your SIL in her pregnancy.

    • AlexBlake

       /  June 28, 2012

      Happy happy news.

  7. caoil

     /  June 28, 2012

    I am still dying over here re: pouty Republicans packin’ their bags and moving to Canada to escape universal health care. It’s almost too funny to be real.

    • There’s this point at which it indicates an almost criminal level of ignorance and inability to, I don’t know, read, and I just don’t know what to do with that.

    • Lizzou

       /  June 28, 2012

      Really?! I find it hard to believe people can be that stoopid…

      • caoil

         /  June 28, 2012

        Buzzfeed has collected some of the tweets. The #MovingtoCanada hashtag has apparently been trending all morning (though I haven’t been on yet myself to peek).

    • dave in texas

       /  June 28, 2012

      These morons crack me up. If they want less government health acre than the US, they’re pretty much going to have to move to a Third World country. I think Somalia would be just the place for the folks that want the least amount of government intrusion in their lives.

      • caoil

         /  June 28, 2012

        But what to do when they realize that most of the people there are not-white?! *gasp*

        • dave in texas

           /  June 28, 2012

          Start trying to lord it over them?

      • A) I would correct that “health acre” typo, but I like it too much.

        B) I think Somalia would be just the place for the folks that want the least amount of government intrusion in their lives. Brilliant. I think I’ll tweet it.

        • dave in texas

           /  June 28, 2012

          Aa) That’s a typo I make almost every single time I type the phrase ‘health care,’ which I use quite a bit in doing what I do.

          Bb) woot!1!1!

        • aaron singer

           /  June 28, 2012

          One of my FB friends (a friend from HS) has many friends from, uhh, across the political spectrum. Said friend posts a lot of political stuff, and there was some argument along these lines recently. One winner was defending Somalia as not really that bad of a place to live vis-a-vis the US.

  8. mythopoeia

     /  June 28, 2012

    Oh dear. ANOTHER kitchen store has opened up by my office. I went in today briefly and had to leave before I bought all the useful, beautiful things.

    (Inexpensive paring knives! Colorful bowls that can be used for prep or serving! Teaspoons with pretty handles, so you can serve tea in a highly civilized fashion! No, no, don’t drag me away! I’ll be good!)

    • I discovered that the used book store that opened up ~5 blocks from my apartment has just the right amount of disorganization to be absolute crack for me. This is going to be a problem.

      • Bookwoman

         /  June 28, 2012

        Oh my. Be strong.

        But it’s great to hear of a bookstore actually, you know, opening.

        • So, there had actually been a storefront there, full of books, for a number of years. But there was a sign saying that they didn’t sell books there. Instead, someone had just bought some dirt cheap space and was running an AbeBooks store out of it. I think they eventually realized that it wouldn’t be much more overhead to, you know, actually sell books to people who walked by as well. The shelving is in that state where you almost wonder if it’s going to hold together (it looks like they just scoured Craigslist to people getting rid of cheap Ikea shelving units) and there are piles everywhere, but that’s just the way I like it.

      • David L

         /  June 28, 2012

        What, precisely, is “just the right amount of disorganization” for a used book store? I can kind of guess, but I want to see if I’m right.

        • Except for the “Classics” section, nothing is organized by author. There are some broad genres, but otherwise you just have to wander around and see if you stumble upon anything interesting. Given the prices ($1.25 for trade paperbacks), that’s a totally legit strategy.

          • David L

             /  June 28, 2012

            Pretty much what I was thinking… enough to keep you from finding something quickly, but not so much to keep you from finding anything.

  9. dmf

     /  June 28, 2012

  10. My big thrill this week – I wrote about outdoor adventure memoirs by women for Outside Magazine’s website: http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/media/books/Before-Cheryl-Met-Oprah-5-Other-Outdoor-Adventure-Memoirs-by-Women-20120627.html

    • That’s quite a thrill! Congratulations!

    • cofax

       /  June 28, 2012

      Awesome!

      Outside needs more women writers, and more articles (and photos) about women. I gave up my subscription some years back after one too many stories about the Manly Men Doing Manly Things, and the only place a woman was represented was as a barmaid in an article about cool towns to live in.

    • helensprogeny

       /  June 28, 2012

      Very much LIKED.

    • Darth Thulhu

       /  June 28, 2012

      Congratulations!

  11. I have a Horde-sourcing request. Can anybody name some small/independent presses (in English-speaking countries) which handle non-fiction, specifically Asian studies, labor, poverty/social welfare, urban studies, modern history, and/or translated works? Or, can anybody recommend to me a way to search for same?
    Many thanks in advance to anyone who may answer. (Go listen to the Bach oboe and violin concerto: that’s the nicest thing I can think of to do for anyone right now.) Take care.

    • If no one’s able to help you here, make sure you also ask on the Official Open Thread when next there is one.

    • dmf

       /  June 28, 2012

      you might ask the folks @ http://www.versobooks.com/

    • caoil

       /  June 28, 2012

      Would syllabuses from universities help? Am having a look at UBC now to see if I can find any.

    • mythopoeia

       /  June 28, 2012

      Huimang, I think I can help here–are you looking for a good source of already-published books or a publisher for a manuscript? Second, are you looking for monographs (research works written for other scholars) or for books that can be read by people who do not have PhDs?

      The Bach oboe and violin concerto is wonderful, and thank you for the reminder.

  12. efgoldman

     /  June 28, 2012

    I’m about to go home. The tree guy is at the house, giving everything a shave and a haircut, and making lots of noise. I have to pick up my computer box and take it to Gyro Gearloose. It appears to be a total mother board failure. If so, I’m just going to buy something with equivalent specs from his wall of rebuilts; he’ll clone my drive for me.

    I know this thread is for non-ACA stuff, but for those who haven’t seen this photoshop, its worth the click.

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2012/06/cnns-finest-hour

    • efgoldman

       /  June 28, 2012

      OK Emily. Lets share a FYWP moment together, shall we?
      Oh, i see what happened. I typo’d my email address.

  13. David L

     /  June 28, 2012

    Massive “4th of July” BBQ/potluck at work today. (We’re off tomorrow and all next week, so this is as close to the 4th as we get.) Now, I need a nap.

    However, I do know that there is one law firm having a better party than us. Last night when I went out to get my supplies, I was behind a woman in the checkout line who had a card reading “State Bar of Texas” in her purse who was buying half a dozen bottles of wine on a corporate card.

  14. Lizzou

     /  June 28, 2012

    So, the sales started today in France, and I made the mistake of going to the mall briefly during my lunch break. It turned me into a humanity hater.

    • I confess to not knowing what this means. Please to enlighten me, while I go make you tea and cookies in order to rebuild your trust.

      • Bookwoman

         /  June 28, 2012

        Zee sales, zey are regulated by zee socialists: http://goparis.about.com/od/shopping/a/Paris_sales.htm

      • Lizzou

         /  June 28, 2012

        Sorry! In France, there are two sale periods a year, mandated by law. It’s usually at the end of June and sometime in January and it’s mostly for clothes. In all seriousness, it’s *against the law* to have significant reductions on your products during non-sales times. You get CRAZY savings (like up to 70% off if you get there early enough). Since stuff is sooooo expensive, you find a lot of people save their money all year to spend it all during “the sales.”

        Backstory: I cannot afford to buy clothes and shoes at regular price in France. My salary is in the top 25%, but I have a little trans-Atlantic import called student loans, so husband and I scrape by living frugally – and not being able to afford regular priced things. I found the one thrift store in our metropolitan area, and it’s weirdly shameful in French culture to admit that you look for bargains. (It’s weirdly shameful to touch on anything to do with money in general.) ANYWHOO. Yesterday, I got some primo office wear for 87 euros that would normally cost 200 euros.

        • That the Single Market hasn’t made things like that completely pointless seems like one of major failures of the EU.

          • Dex

             /  June 28, 2012

            It’s really insane, but I don’t really blame the Euro. You can hop a short train ride to London and get things like clothes and shoes at 30-50% off year-round. If you buy even a few things it’s worth the trip but you still don’t get all that many people making the trip.

            • aaron singer

               /  June 28, 2012

              That train ride is expensive, and budget air a hassle, no?

        • Thank you! Now that you mention it, I think Eleanor Beardsley has talked about this on NPR, but I was a bit flummoxed for a mo!

          Ah, student loans. As the President recently pointed out: He’s President of the United States, and he only finished paying off his loans 8 years ago.

  15. So I don’t talk much about the book in the open forum. It’s not yet sold to a publisher, and given the widespread indifference (Fifty Shades of “Meh”) to the book, I’m likely to just self-publish. But I’m pretty happy with it, and even the people I thought would hate aren’t too much opposed to it.

    • (I swear to you, I’ll be achieving your level in the Pile o’ Books before too long!)

      • oh don’t worry about it. The copy I sent you is missing a key scene due to my rather bizarre inability to check the settings of my word processor. I’ll send you a copy of that missing scene & the page where it should occur through e-mail.

        I’m just excited to see the pieces come together. I have a link to the book mock-up on my Facebook page.

        I’ll have it available for sale as a paperback and as a Kindle book. I’m working on Nook and other formats.

  16. dmf

     /  June 28, 2012

    can someone help me to understand the need in blog-commenting to speculate on undisclosed intentions/psychology in cases such as why Justice Roberts made the decision he did, and more so why people often state such speculations as facts?

    • Nope. No clue.

    • Sorn

       /  June 28, 2012

      Long answer people want the illusion of intelligence without the hard work of doing actual researh. Sort answer everyone’s an armchair psychologist. It’s like being Irish on St. Paddy’s day.

      • dmf

         /  June 28, 2012

        hi S, that seems to suggest a kind of choice but my sense is that this is closer to not being able to distinguish their speculations from evidence. I know that guessing about motivations is a kind of unconscious/immediate part of our socialization/gossip lives but this goes beyond thinking out loud, curious.

        • Sorn

           /  June 28, 2012

          D,

          True, the absence of critical thinking, or even basic reading ability among the pundit class was certainly demonstrated by the cable news people today. Maybe that’s part of the problem. The abscence of any ability to say hey wait a minute, could we be wrong about this. Of course there’s that famous quote by H.L. Mencken about going broke, but it seems to carry over from time to time.

          • dmf

             /  June 28, 2012

            this is why I’m puzzled by those who keep insisting that having an undergrad degree is a generally good counter to such tendencies of gossip/speculation and better yet a means to critical thinking, there is so much counter-evidence even on a site like TNC’s. One would think that the idea of an informed opinion is indistinguishable from a feeling of certainty. good luck with this when you get to teaching.

  17. (I keep having these entirely inappropriate thoughts about what might happen in my house tonight if I were FLOTUS).

  18. For today’s workplace entertainment, I am running skip traces on debtors (and will be for the next couple weeks.) Number one: could deadbeats please try to have unusual names and not something just this side of John Smith, please? Number two: Dear Google. You may have noticed in my search parameters I included the word ‘Maryland’. The whole word. M-a-r-y-l-a-n-d. You know why? Because I’m looking for things with the word Maryland involved. I am trying to find a state. I am NOT trying to find a doctor. If I wanted a doctor I’d put that word in the search parameters. Kthanxbye.

    • Bookwoman

       /  June 28, 2012

      Google drives me crazy that way. I do not want results that contain approximate spellings or stuff people are trying to sell. I know how to spell and I know how to limit my parameters, so please just give me the results that have the fnucking terms I’ve asked for! Grrrr.

  19. baiskeli

     /  June 28, 2012


    Texas Republican Party Calls For Abstinence Only Sex Ed, Corporal Punishment In Schools

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/texas-republican-party-2012-platform-education_n_1632097.html

    The position causing the most controversy, however, is the statement that they oppose the teaching of “higher order thinking skills” — a curriculum which strives to encourage critical thinking — arguing that it might challenge “student’s fixed beliefs” and undermine “parental authority.”

    I have no words (well, actually, I do, but they’re likely to send Disqus into a profanity induced seizure).

    • Don’t look too closely, my friend, but the Texas GOP also wants to repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965 as emended and extended in 1973.

      You know, if you just give your citizens the right and ability to vote and fairly serve on juries, you’d get the feds out of your hair.

    • David L

       /  June 28, 2012

      You should find and read the part about LGBT issues. Then remember that it’s a vast improvement over their previous platform.

    • Well, if it’s any consolation, it’s WordPress around here, and you can fucking swear all you want.

  20. What should I do with all these blackberries that I picked by the side of the road?

  21. Ok, the Sears twitter thing rocked. The repairman came to our house today and had it fixed in 10minutes.

    • koolaide

       /  June 28, 2012

      yay! and yet why should it take twitter unhappiness to get the store to do what they should have done right in the first place? but good on them for getting it done.

  22. AlexBlake

     /  June 28, 2012

    Hola hordepeople, it’s been a while. Been to busy to do more than read a few things. It looks like I survived so far.

    Medical, March: My grandfather passed away. It was a shock, but not a surprise, since he’s been going downhill since his 90th last year. Medical, May: My wife was in ICU with dual pulminary embolisms (emboli?), they had to use a clotbuster drug, which had a nasty stroke side effect, she’s currently on coumedin and doing well. Better than before, actually, leading me to wonder if she’s been having problems for a while and they finally got big enough to notice.

    Work, March: right after getting back from the funeral, and watching the family infighting begin, they reamed me out for a mistake that no one else would have caught either. We then had to start working overtime, and in April got told that we’re having early retirements and layoffs. Due to be done by the end of June, which is tomorrow. But the EVP dropped by the floor a few minutes ago and told us that they’re done with our department. 5 early retirements and 4 layoffs. But all my team survived. Other departments got gutted by the early retirements.

    Personal, April: I’m the treasurer at church, so I sit on the board. The minister, after a long and gory story which I should not share, has decided to retire. There’s been an upheaval on the board, and a couple of friends have their noses out of joint. But i’ve been begged to stay, so…

    We got a new batch of kittens, the advantage/drawback of living at the edge of nowhere is that feral cats survive well here. One of the kittens, the littlest one, was sleeping on our porch a lot. She didn’t run when we went out, and eventually, she just walked into the house. She had some sort of injury on the front of her neck. Turns out she had to have 4 fly larvae removed. We’ve had to give her antibiotics and clean her wounds. So, now we have a 6 week old black kitten. She’s feeling much better. But I’ve never seen a kitten that learned to use the litterbox that quickly, and she’s completely crate trained. The vet is amazed at how well she’s doing.

    Shorter, life’s been nasty recently. But it’s all looking up. And the ACA is just the cherry on the top (sorry, but I just had to.)

    • koolaide

       /  June 28, 2012

      wow. that’s quite a year. I’m glad your wife is doing better w/ the coumedin and that your job/department (knock wood) is ok for the time being.

      • AlexBlake

         /  June 29, 2012

        The CEO sent an email saying “thanks for the patience, but we’re done. And because of the people who retired we opened up positions for advancement.”

        I think my wife seems about 10 years younger, honestly. My personal feeling is that the cause is birth control related (that’s one of the triggers of blood clots), although we have to wait till after she’s off coumadin to do tests. So, I’m looking into a vasectomy. ’cause it’s my turn.

        • As someone who has already gone through that, I can say that it’s not too bad. I ended up with some hematomas that were uncomfortable for a few months, but that’s really, really uncommon.

    • Oh my good lord. That’s too much. Well, the kitty thing is nice, but I’m so sorry there’s been so much other struggle and sorrow.

      • AlexBlake

         /  June 29, 2012

        I’ve let her out of her cage and she’s climbing on the bookbags. I’ve stress ate my weight back up 5 pounds, but other than that I’ve gotten to laughing at things.

        • dawn0oleary

           /  June 29, 2012

          You’re doing better than I did. I stress ate my way into 28 pounds when my mom died.

          I’m so sorry this is happening. Hang in there. It will pass.

    • helensprogeny

       /  June 28, 2012

      OMG. Hugs, and thank the fates for kitties. Thanks for dropping in and catching us up too. I hope you and yours have a wonderful, relaxing, productive summer.

      • AlexBlake

         /  June 29, 2012

        Thanks! she’s adorable. And as an aside, peroxide bleaches kitty fur, so she’s got a brown neck from the dibbles after cleaning her wounds.

        My older cat has taken to her suprisingly well. He’ll lay there and let her smack at his tail, and in general, is very patient.

  23. AlexBlake

     /  June 28, 2012

    Oh, yeah, we had to get a new roof from hail damage. We just payed today.

  24. I saw a post on maddowblog about how federal firefighters are largely uninsured. RIDICULOUS. I think it’s worth a look, esp. in light of today’s SCOTUS decision and the fact that the wildfire smoke has made it all the way east to central NYS. So click on over and sign it, if you will: http://wh.gov/3WRQ

  25. In followup to an OTAN thing Monday – our accountant is doing better and is off hard drugs. He says the woman who hit him received multiple citations for failing to yield to a pedestrian and (big surprise here) texting while driving, which is illegal in Maryland. Somewhat surprising, the driver was in her 50s, or as I put it, old enough to know better.

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